INSTEX "made operational" - Trade between EU and Iran starts

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  1. notme

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    Not saying that. I just sourced that there is no high demand at all. Your claim has been debunked.
     
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    Oh something like 1 in 10 get kicked in jail. No worries. Veterans begging for "food" is common.
    We all know they don't get for food. Them losers are addicted to alcohol and drugs.
     
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    I personally don't give a damn if the krauts want to be Putin's bitch, because that's what they are racing towards. Their greediness has given them a big case of short-sightedness and that goes for gas coming from Russia and taking blood money from Iran. Germany is a historical cancer that should have been totally dealt with at the end of WW2. The surrounding countries should have been given parts of Germany....especially Poland...and the Germanic state dissolved for all time. Either that or we should have pulled back and made a glass parking lot out of it.

    Germany never violates deals or breaks treaties? :roflol::roflol::roflol: Does the Treaty of Versailles ring a bell? Something something WW2 ??
     
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    Right.

    That's why there is no more Iran-Obama deal.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure.

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    Hey if you want to call your police and military members cattle, go right ahead.
     
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    Nothing anesthesiologists can’t help with.
     
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    Might as well invite Iran to be part of the EU as well. It will all be under Sharia soon anyway.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol: How will the krauts make their sausages??? :icon_jawdrop:
     
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    So much for claiming there never was a deal because of no approval from congress.
    What a fail to have claimed that.
     
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    No no.

    I never claimed there wasn't a deal.

    I claimed there was never a treaty between the countries of Iran and the United States.

    Which there never was.
     
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    Nice.
    You often proud of the genocidal ways of Americans?
     
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    I just made a leftist defend Nazi's.

    I win the Internet.
     
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    There was. As of the reasons I put up in previous post.
     
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    Sure.

    That's why it was called the US-Iran Treaty.

    Oh wait, no, it never was called that, was it?
     
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    Calling your random German civilian, including the children, nazi's... all in order to support the idea that killing them is a happy thing? Sounds more like you would do excellent defending a terrorist organisation like Hamas.
     
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    Those are images of WW2 Germany that you attributed to US "genocidal ways".

    Clearly, that puts you in the defense of Nazi Germany.

    I did a good job. You can say it.

    No, defending Hamas is a leftist thing.

    You can see it here all the time.
     
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    Indeed... sure. Post 113, which I have been referring too, mentions the word treaty.
     
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    Did the mentioning of the word "treaty" say US-Iran Treaty?
     
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    You have claimed it must be ratified by congress. And it does not.

    1) the president can make such treaties. That has been shown in post 113.
    2) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-after-u-s-sanctions-move-zarif-idUSKCN1S403W
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ingraham-war-with-iran-would-cost-trump-the-2020-election
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/09/eu-rejects-iran-two-month-ultimatum-on-nuclear-deal

    Reuters,... rather well respected news organisation calls it a treaty.
    Fox "news",... calls it a treaty.
    The guardian calls it a treaty.
     
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    Does your shithole country have a constitution? Do you understand the concept of constitution?
     
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    Last time I checked, you quoted that the US president has a sole-executive power to make agreements in foreign policy. And you used that to deny it is like that. You're probably one of them Spanish speaking Americans who doesn't really understand English.
     
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    You are the one that has no concept of how things work.
    The President is part of Executive branch.
    Executive branch implements and enforces laws.
    Legislative branch passed laws.
    The constitution says that for a treaty to become federal law (which means all future presidents must enforce it) - you need 2/3 of senate.
    If the agreement does not pass senate then the agreement is as enforceable as a pinky swear. No US citizen (a dumpster bum or a POTUS) is obliged to do anything as the document signed by prior administration has no legal power. Do you understand what legal power is? Constitution does not recognize executive agreements, nor does it recognize congressional-executive agreements. The only sure way to make it stick is to get 2/3 of Senate to approve. There are no if, ands and buts about it. That’s the law! And the US constitution is the supreme law of this land.

    You don’t like Trump backing away - blame other countries that didn’t make ratification of the treaty to be a condition of enforcement of their part of the agreement. There are lots of professionals there who would point it out to any world leader for a small fee.

    If you still think the accord had legal power - have you ever questioned why liberals, who sue pretty much every thing Trump does, didn’t run to court and block the POTUS from backing out from that deal. You know why they didn’t do it? Because they know they’d lose on the spot - the accord is not worth the paper it’s printed on. ;)
     
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    Looks not that different to Detroit in 2019.

    Im police, and im certainly not cattle.
     
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    At least Thüringen is not bothered with their reeking smell.
     
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    We have less Muslims than you.
     
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    In your little sector of Germany....perhaps. How's your Economic Growth doing there?
     
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