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  1. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    Well you didn't answer the question of which parts of the game came from soccer. It just felt like a ''you were wrong'' to me.

    Apologies if I was being over sensitive but these kinds of threads are about advancing knowledge in subjects that interest us and don't really need the kind of point scoring games you see in the political threads.
     
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  2. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I realise how ironic it is to say ''we don't need point scoring games'' in this thread. :)
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You didn't see that I answered with, "I have no idea?"
     
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    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    That's why I said you should have read the article you posted. It was very informative.
     
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    What Montegriffo refers to as hockey, played on the grass, & with a, "proper ball." It wasn't until I saw your, later, post, that I connected this with the girls' sport (in America) of field hockey. I, then, remarked about this, in a subsequent post.
     
  6. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    Looks like I was wrong about India being the origin of field hockey.
    I was more correct when I said it was very big in India though.

    https://www.athleticscholarships.net/history-field-hockey.htm
     
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    The fact is, I DID answer you.
     
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  8. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    You did direct me to a Wiki article which answered the question. Thank you.
    Now have you got anything else interesting to add to the thread?
     
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    Correct, after answering "I have no idea" in response to you asking "which part of the game do you think resembles soccer." Then for some reason you said, "you didn't answer the question of which parts of the game came from soccer."
     
  10. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    That's not a very interesting contribution to the thread. Try again but not just some petty bickering this time.
    How about explaining Aussie Rules to us?
    Are there any native aboriginal games?
    Who's going to win the Ashes?
    That sort of thing...
     
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    I was just providing clarity.

    Actually, I'm not a follower of the game! I do know that it is quite a complex game.

    Interesting question. I'm ashamed to say that I don't know, other than boomerangs have been used for sport.

    Ah the Ashes! I'm actually half English, British born, so it's not as if I am loyal to Australia. I like to see a draw after the fourth test, with the fifth being the decider. If the host country is Australia, I like to see England win, and if the host country is England, I like to see Australia win. As to who will win? I don't like making bold predictions!
     
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  12. Montegriffo

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    Oh well, we'll have to try and entice an Australian Australian into the thread to answer the questions.
    If there are any still dry enough to have a working phone/laptop.
     
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    Talking of Australians, one of my favourite podcasts is Jim Jefferies' I don't know about that and this week's episode dropped in my inbox on the subject of basketball.
    I'd said in the conversation in other thread http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ita-death-rates.586048/page-5#post-1072516699 which led me to start this one that I'd thought it was actually a Canadian who'd invented the game and it turns out I was right. I was also right about it starting with a peach basket that no one thought to cut the bottom out of for years but they had used a broom to get the ball out not a ladder as I'd suggested and it was a YMCA not a school or college.
     
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    Simple. Guy throws the ball at some sticks. If the sticks fall the batter is finished. If he hits the ball he and a teammate run back and forth scoring points. If he hits the ball and the defense catches it he's out. If they can get the ball back to the batter's box before him he is also out. If he scores over a.hundred he gets free beer all night. If they want they can quit batting so to other team gets to bat. No matter how much they score its a tie if they don't get the other team out before 7 days. The score could be 7000-4 and be a tie match.
     
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    At least that's what I understand.
     
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    Rules? It has rules?
     
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    Close but that's a draw not a tie. A tie is the most exiting but also rarest result you can get. People often confuse a draw for a tie but a tie is a result and a draw is a no result.
    Also it's only 5 days not 7, a game that lasted 7 days and ended in a draw would be crazy.
    Apart from that you did very well for a foreigner but you left out sixes, fours, leg before wicket and googlies. The ball has to knock off the bails in either a run out or when someone is bowled.
    You left out quite a few other ways of getting out too.
     
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    I've had conversations with enthusiasts about the equipment advancements in Golf. And the subsequent changes in courses (length and design) to maintain the challenge. As a golf traditionalist, many assume I would be against the changes. But, in fact, from a spectator's perspective, its a more exciting game. And from a players' perspective (amateurs), it makes playing far more enjoyable when you have a club that can help you out of the rough.

    Any thoughts? Either way?
     
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    They did once try to eliminate the draw in cricket by playing a ''timeless'' test match between England and South Africa in Durban.
    It lasted 11 days between 3rd -14th March 1939 but had to be abandoned when the ship taking the England team home had to leave. A total of 1,981 runs had been scored between the two teams at that stage.
     
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    That's a similar problem to the one they had with the javelin. Athletes were throwing the javelin further and further until they were in danger of hitting competitors on the running track so they changed the centre of gravity of the javelin so it fell sooner. It's getting to the point where it might have to change again.
    In table tennis they had to limit the thickness of the rubber on the bat as players were able to put unplayable spin on the ball. The ball had to be made slightly larger too in order to slow it down.

    The problem in golf is that advances in technology have meant that players can hit the ball much further these days turning many par 4s and 5s into 3s and 4s. Since changes to the lengths of the holes on courses would be expensive and impossible in some cases due to the constraints of the size of the course itself there have been talks about changing the ball so you can't hit it as far.

    Formula One has to change the rules almost every year to slow the cars down on grounds of safety. Ground effect was banned for this reason as cornering speeds were getting so high. Engine sizes have been made smaller over the years too. Despite these rule changes track records still get broken year on year.
     
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    I was just using terms Americans could understand and to keep it brief. I left off the bits about curve balls and tea time too.
     
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    You follow the Australian weather?
     
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    Playing golf is an excuse to go for a walk and get some fresh air. Using a golf cart negates those benefits. As far as spectator sports go even at a championship level golf ranks lower than watching lawn bowls IMO.

    Yes, there is skill required in actually playing golf and from a health perspective for seniors it is probably one of the better options. If I am going to play a round then I intend to walk the entire course and if that frustrates others then it is probably better that I just go for a walk on the beach instead.

    ;)
     
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    AUSSIE RULES FOOTBALL

    Ok, the self-evident part: you need to get the ball to the goals ( tall poles) at either side. Through the centre gets 6 points. Smaller goals are 1 point each

    Fine details:

    You can pull, jostle, but you can't push
    Nothing above the head

    You can't carry the ball and run, you need to bounce it, which is tricky since it is oblong-shaped
    Catching a kick on the full is a Mark. You're then instantly immune from being tackled and get a stress-free kick from that spot

    The game is broken into four quarters, 20 minutes each. Teams swap sides in terms of direction of play half- time.

    The game originated in the state of Victoria, which has the capital of Melbourne. Most of the teams are located there, however it is played over the entire country so there are a few teams from the other state capitals as well.

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    That's the main gist of it :cheerleader:
     
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    You must have originally quoted one of my posts in this reply, before you edited.
     

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