Iran fired cruise missiles in attack on Saudi oil facility: Senior US official

Does Iran conceal their manufacturing? Would that be a special thing or normative?

 

I heard France was heading over to give its opinion but I seem to remember France said Syria was responsible for some chemical attack which was later proven to be a false flag.

 

1. Iran: Zarif threatens 'all out war' in case of military ...
   https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/iran-zarif-threatens-all-out-war-in-case-of-military...
   In an exclusive interview with CNN's Nick Paton Walsh, Zarif raised the specter of 'all out war' in case of a US or Saudi military strike on the country.
   
   
2. Iran's foreign minister Javad Zarif threatens 'all-out war'
   https://nypost.com/2019/09/19/irans-foreign-minister-threatens-all-out-war
   2 hours ago · Iran’s foreign minister warned Thursday of an “all-out war” if the US or Saudi Arabia launch military strikes in retaliation for the drone-and-missile attacks on Saudi oil sites. Javad Zarif ...
   

 

I don't understand your question, but let me actually post the findings from the UN last time they were asked to examine similar evidence of "Iranian missiles". You will see their conclusions aren't all that certain, even if they do try to point some finger at Iran.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180801-un-experts-find-evidence-of-iran-weapons-in-yemen/

 

I've been watching what is going on with my head out in the fresh air.

 

a. the Houthis can't get fairly advanced equipment?

b Missiles can't turn about in flight and come from any direction they want to seem to?

Are they trying to say the Iranians fired the missiles for the Houthis? Their problem is still mainly with the Houthis. They might sanction the Iranians (which they are doing) but going to war seems disproportionate. Then again, Trump's tiny little testes are turning blue, He wants a war,any war.

 

...and your state-approved goggles on. Daddy Mike already stated in public that he and his "lie, cheat and steal" and yet you believe him.

 

The UN is also sending its experts. Given the fact that China and Russia are also involved, maybe we can find something less blatantly politicized than the patent nonsense about chemical weapons supposedly used by Assad!

 

I heard they did the same after the downing of the drone. Apparently the US got in touch and said they could choose an area, no people killed and they said, You attack we reply. Iran knows that the scenario it is left in ends with it being attacked by the US, Israel the sauds and maybe more. At the moment it is being deprived of functioning normally having already gone through similar which resulted in them making the deal which they kept. They clearly are not going to 'give up'. If they did not do this and the number of false flags we have seen make that a definite possibility then their response is really the only one they could give.

Israel has been killing Iranians en mass and the media rarely report it except at the bottom of an inside page.

 

I have heard Trump is caught between wanting a successful war for re-election and not wanting it with Iran as too many American body bags for a successful re-election.

 

Who do you think attacked the Saudi refineries? I am by no means knowledgeable about GPS or guidance systems, but the Asir mountains are formidable .. and its well over 1500 miles from Yemen to Abqaiq.

 

Israel and Iran have been threatening each other for 40 years.. Maybe we should blow up both of them.

 

Where do you get the daddy mike crap? I've been watching news reports from the DNC allies in the MSN. The truth is hard to hide even for them. You might try opening both eyes rather than just using the left one.

 

I'm poking fun at our Sec State, former CIA guy. A man like him claiming that "we lie, we cheat, we steal" is making a true statement. Perhaps the only true statement he's made in the last few years.

Hey, I'm just kidding a guy who made at least one true statement while in office. One is better than none, eh? Daddy Mike has a nice ring to it I think.

 

not only the fact that Trump credibility is shot, but we also have what the Bush admin did in Iraq

the reality is, we can't afford another 10+ year war, so doubt it will happen anyways

and no way congress gives Trump the decider the ability to decide for himself like they did Bush

 

If the US makes a retaliatory strike on some Iranian facilities the Iranians should take great care in how they respond unless they really want to go to war.

 

My own theory, and its just a theory and I will await the results of what I would consider the most independent investigation we can get, namely from the UN, for their final findings, is as follows:

1- The attack was launched from Houthi controlled territory in Yemen. But it was coordinated with Iran.
2- The missiles and drones used were long range missiles and drones that Iran has in its arsenal. Like in the past, those were smuggled to the Houthis "probably "un-assembled with the Houthis assembling them in Yemen. In this regard, the range of the Soumar Cruise Missile is up to 2,000 km. There are numerous drones in Iran's arsenal that can fly much greater distances.
3- The US is embarrassed to admit its systems couldn't pick up such a large scale attack from the Houthis. This will cost them billions in potential arms sales. Besides that, this failure will have geopolitical implications in any game of "chicken" with Iran, as it will expose the fact that their systems are terribly unreliable. By claiming the missiles and drones were launched from Iran, the US can at least mitigate some of the damage by saying the attack succeeded only because the Saudi radars were aimed to look for missiles and drones launched from the south. Not that this will ultimately sell nor really change the huge damage done to the entire US arms industry by this single attack.

 

Its more than 1500 miles from Yemen to Abqaiq.. Its 338 miles from Basra to Abqaiq. Keep that in mind.

 

"Wars are easy to win" Trump is like this about foreigners, so he thinks the Iranians will dance in the streets once we invade. Also he's conservative, so just lurves him a good war (as long as he's not in it). I think he's also honestly deluded enough to think we all love him and will keep on doing so even after he kills lots of our children

 

No that was that idiot, whatshisname, Bush Jr.
The damage he made to the ME will take decades to fix.

 

He's a moron.

 

Iran has the longer range Soumar Cruise Missiles that has that range, but the actual distance is 1,300 kilometers from where these missiles could have been fired in Yemen's Houthi controlled territory to hit the Saudi oil refinery. For that reason, the most likely missile used was this one:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-anniversary-amir-hatami-tehran-a8759946.html

 

1300 kilometers is only 800 miles.

 

Yes, exactly the distance needed for launching that missile from the outer edges of Houthi controlled territory at the Saudi oil refinery. And that range can be expanded by changing/reducing the payload on the missile.

 

He probably gets it out of Daddy Mike's mouth

Yah - and you probably believed the Absurdities
presented to the UN by Colin Powel didn't YOU?
.........

...... JUST ASK MIKE POMPEO
The guy who laughs & brags about America's
... Lies, Cheats & Theivery and calls it all
....... The Glorious American Experiment
..... and is applauded for this delivery


Now if YOU want to believe this PIG of a man,
.... what can be said of YOUR credibility ?
.