Iran mocks WWII Holocaust, prepares another

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  1. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    I have spent some time tumbling down the rabbit hole and cannot find any evidence that gas chambers were used on humans. Can someone more knowledgeable that I on this subject please post it.
     
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    There was no such thing as the USAF during world war II.
     
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    I, too, used to believe there was a holocaust until I came upon the book
    "The Hoax of the Twentieth Century". That was in the late nineties. Since then I have read many more historical accounts about it.
    Most recently 87 year old Ursula Haverbeck was incarcerated in Germany for stating Auschwitz was not a death camp, but a labor camp. How crazy is that??

    More than nine million Germans died as a result of deliberate Allied starvation and expulsion policies after the Second World War, including 1.5-2 million German prisoners, which is the alleged number that died in Auschwitz.


    http://www.whale.to/b/starvation_of_germans.html
     
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    Iran has done a lot worse things than mocking the Holocaust

    But, I could see this getting the mainstream media outraged

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    Maybe Germany shouldn't have tried to mess with England and America? :)


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    Yep, it was part of the Navy.
     
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    my guess it took a place in the eastern Europe , right?
     
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    I think the Holocaust is made way too big of a deal out of by the media, Hollywood, and the public school system, considering Stalin killed 20 million Christians, and was worse than Hitler, IMO. And, not a peep about him from the above institutions.

    But, they have photos of skeletal people in these camps, and first hand reports from the English and American liberators. So, I don't buy the hoax thing.



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    From the OP article:
    The denial or questioning of the genocide is widespread in the Middle East, where many regard it as a pretext Israel used for its creation and to excuse its actions toward the Palestinians.

    The contest was organized by non-governmental bodies with strong support from Iran's hard-liners.

    Contest organizer Masuod Shojai Tabatabaei said the purpose of the Tehran event was not to deny the Holocaust but rather to criticize alleged Western double standards regarding free expression - and particularly as a response to depictions of the Prophet Muhammad by the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo and others.


    Likud and AIPAC are cynically milking the long-ago horrors of the Nazis to cover their own crimes. Israel was founded by secular, socialists. It's government has been taken over by extreme right wing religious fanatics whose war crimes and violence against the helpless Palestionians has revolted the world community. Anyone who questions the blatant disregard of the Netanyahu administration for its agreements with the USA is labeled an anti-Semite.

    Is former Minister of Defense, Prime Minister and IDF war hero Ehud Barak an anti-Semite? I don't think so! Here is what he had to say about the Likud government yesterday,"Israel has been infected by the seeds of fascism. Life-sustaining Zionism and the seeds of fascism cannot live together. What has happened is a hostile takeover of the Israeli government by dangerous elements. And it's just the beginning."

    Barak said, "there are no serious leaders left in the world who believe the Israeli government." True enough, but he overlooked the right wing American suckers who are still gobbling up Likud propaganda because they are bigoted haters of that other Semitic group, the Arabs
     
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    I met and worked with more than a few Iranians during the 1970s and you couldn't wish to meet more charming and welcoming folk. And some Iranian women are absolutely stunning too.

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=i...UIBygB&biw=1024&bih=653#imgrc=ZQegOxqsMPLuYM:
     
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    In which case, sir, I suggest you are either a fool, a rabid anti-Semite or ignorant of history. Are the remaining survivors of the death camps making their stories up and, if so, what would be the point?
     
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    No, they don't mean it. The entire 'wiping Israel etc..." has been long debunked. It originated with a deliberate mistranslation by MEMRI of a speech by Ahmadinejad. The big giveaway is that there's no such idiom in Farsi as 'wiping' something off a map. In any event the reference was to the Zionist regime itself and not Israel.
    Here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel...media-to-justify-an-all-out-war-on-iran/21188
     
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    Ask the survivors of the death camps how much of a "myth" they were.
     
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    Really? When Jung met the Pueblo Indians they told him they believed the white man was 'mad'. Jung asked why. They said that the white man says he thinks with his head. Jung asked them where they thought from. They pointed to their hearts. Jung said at that moment he saw Western civilisation in an entirely new light.

    All of the most intelligent people I have known have been deeply feeling people but feeling from the heart, not just reactive emotions from the 'head'
     
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    When people are free to mock Mohammed, than how can those same people fanatically object to mock the holocaust.




    Only according to the ex-Mossad led propaganda machine that translated it.
    lol
     
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    Iran hasn't invaded another country in centuries. Israel has invaded and illegally occupied Palestine since 1967. The cartoon contest in Iran is sponsored by a non-government group. The latest reports confirm that Iran is scrupulously fulfiling every requirement of the non-nuclear deal. Israel is blatantly violating its commitments under international law and its solemn treaty agreements with the USA over "settlements." Israel, like North Korea and Pakistan has developed clandesting nuclear weapons and refuses to sign international non-proliferation treaties.None of the concentration camps which killed millions of Jews were located in Iran. Until the establishment of Israel in 1948, Jews lived peacefully in Iran for thousands of years.

    Americans are furious about 9/11. That attack was made by Saudis. Iran had nothing to do with it. Iran is not an Arab country. Iran is Shia, not Sunni. The Islamist fanaticism which Saudi Arabia has spread all over the Sunni world does not exist in Iran. Iran has partnered with the USA in the fight against heroin production in Afghanistan. Iran has real elections and has just installed a moderate government supported by the many pro-American Iranians who long to return Iran to its former status as the USA's number one ally on the Gulf.

    Right wing extremists in America's GOP, allied with the fascist Likud government in Israel want to suck the USA into war with Iran for their own political purposes. Don't fall for it!
     
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    The GOP had this marvelous plan to install a puppet regime in Iran some decades ago.
    They kicked out a perfectly normal democratically elected government there. Installed a Shah who applied fascist rule, and that totally freaking backfired in this huge humiliation that their terrorist were held hostage in their own embassy. They than had this marvelous idea to crush that sovereign nation, by supporting that maniac of a Saddam Hussein. Supply him with WMDs and let the massacre begin. The war went nowhere. The US terrorist even shot down a commercial airplane. Saddam double crossed the US with Kuwait.

    And ever since than,... the GOP never got over it.
     
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    And now they are both whining endlessly about the mess they created themselves, and finding it impossibly difficult to join the dots from 1953 until now.
     
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    There are times when I'm convinced that American foreign policy is to do the very opposite of what ought to be done. It probably explains why they keep (*)(*)(*)(*)ing up? [​IMG]
     
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    I think its official they recognize their mistakes - but how does that change reality ? does America need to sell some of its friends to appease the Iranians ?
     
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    It'll only be 'official' when America formally apologises to Iran for screwing up their country for decades. Of course US arrogance will prevent that ever happening. And what is this appeasement business? Is Iran threatening anyone?
     
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    It does but words dont matter as much as actions and Im not going into a denail war with you on Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and Gaza, enough to say its how America and some of its allies see things, Iran makes the same accusations just points the blame at someone else, none of them will deny there is war throu proxis.

    Appeasement for the sake of normalization, what else ?
     
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    None of the above. It is historical fact that I base my comments.
     
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    Whose 'historical fact', Fred Leuchter's?:roflol: Also you didn't answer my question; are death camp survivors lying about their experiences?
     
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    Yes, they are liars.

    My grandfather was murdered by the Nazis. So don't I want your sympathy.
     
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    My earlier comments about you are clearly correct then. So, if these octogenarian survivors are lying, as you claim, what would be the point? Think carefully before you answer.
     

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