Would a black box be needed? Seems like all data would be relayed in real time with a drone. I don't think much will come from this incident except for further ratcheting up tensions. Everyone seems to be keying on Iran going beyond its stockpile limits next week, which it cannot help but do due to the sanctions. Trump is giving Iran one option, it seems; total capitulation and we all know that's not going to happen.
I agree. The appropriate response would be an air strike on the place that launched the missile and nothing more. I would suggest, by the way, that you be skeptical of every administration.
Well if it is true that the US spy drone was in Iran's air space and legally Iran had the right to down it and then the US goes to attack it, that would seem like an act of war and it appears Iran is saying do not try that and not expect a response. I think Woogs has it. The Trump regime wants total capitulation from Iran and Iran is not going to give it. This of course is what the situation has been in the ME. The US or Israel feeling free to enter anyone's air space and kill whoever they want in the knowledge that they will not try and fight back. I don't think Iran is going to play. What if Iran shoots down any US drone or plane which comes to attack it which I would think she would have every right to legally do.
There is no reason to fly a drone over Iran. It can get all the reconnaissance it needs from 34 km out at sea where it was. What Iran did was indeed an act of war.
Some administrations are more credible than others. But since we passed the horrendous Orwellian Patriot Act, my trust level is pretty low.
You don't know that. You are simply choosing to believe who you want. Imo the US all along has been the one who has been pushing for war and so it is the more likely guilty party. It is the one who reneged on a deal which was working. There is no evidence Iran did the Tankers. I suspect the US did go into their territory probably to see how they would respond. bye the way I did not read it was over Iran, just in Iran's air space.
Those were GOP-Bush policies. Dems didn't take the house until 2007, when the botton was already falling out. Bush actually pushed through a massive 40 point plan to push mortgages to low income people, but I guess that is not the topic of this thread.
I disagree. The video is strong evidence that Iran is behind the tanker attacks. And Iran has done this in the past. My previous post showed that war is highly unlikely. Iran is confident it can get away with its provocations. Liberals, knowing little of military matters, tend to grossly overestimate both American military power and its willingness to fight. Trump has been bluffing, and Iran is calling the bluff.
Long range drone means it's flight range. NOT its view range. Do you actually believe a drone can zoom in and record Teheran from outside its territory, as an example?
You're allowed to think what you want but the evidence including the people on the tankers and owner do not go with Trump's wee story. Here is more reasons why the trump 'evidence' does not cut it http://www.politicalforum.com/index...n-gulf-of-oman.557263/page-23#post-1070687813
I don’t think Iranians have drones. If military response is warranted, then it should not be lethal. No one died from the drone attack, so no one in Iran deserves to die or to be injured over this.
The neo-cons, war-mongers are running the show. Telling Trump he has to be strong and like the easily-led child he is he goes along. US has been pushing Iran into a corner since they tore up the deal. Sanctions are economic warfare, Now they have a Badger in a corner and Trump hasn't the mental capacity to stand up to Bolton or Pompeo or even Israel and Saudi Arabia. Right-wingers are right on course to get the war they so desperately want. May not like the outcome though.......
Lets say they shoot down another one. At that time i would say an appropriate response would be attacks in air defences systems along the coast. From then we should patrol at will destroying anything that threatens our planes or ships.
Not today, by the sounds of things. It's not often I find myself agreeing with the orange manchild these days, but he seems to be handling this situation well enough. I can't fault what he is saying so far. He certainly isn't talking about attacking or invading, which goes to show once again that his usual bluster and posturing is just that, and that's a good thing. Trump says advisers aren't pushing him to war President Trump insisted Thursday his hawkish advisers are not leading him into war. And while he reiterated his view that endless wars need to end, he cast the downing of a US spy drone by Iran as a new provocation. "We’re pulling a lot of people back but this is a new wrinkle," Trump said, noting decisions to draw down troops in Syria and Afghanistan. "This is a new fly in the ointment, what happened shooting down the drone. And this country will not stand for it, that I can tell you." Trump has said privately over the past weeks that he is not interested in wading into another foreign conflict. And he's been frustrated in the past that some of his advisers appear to use tougher rhetoric. ___ Trump on drone shootdown: "I have a feeling it was a mistake" President Trump said Thursday that he believes Iran mistakenly shot down the US drone, saying he finds it "hard to believe it was intentional." "Probably Iran made a mistake. I would imagine it was a general or somebody who made a mistake in shooting that drone down," Trump said. "I find it hard to believe it was intentional. I think it could've been somebody that was loose and stupid," Trump said. "It was a very foolish move, that I can tell you." Trump assured that the situation is "all going to work out." The President also said that it made a "big, big difference" that the drone — which by definition is unmanned — had "nobody in" it. https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/iran-us-drone-shot-down-latest-intl/index.html
How does a computerized drone equipped with GPS go into Iran air space and even if they did wouldn't there be a record of it with coordinates? As far as going to war idk I see why Iran would be mad about us air crafts so close to their border. If there was an Iranian craft that close to US borders we'd all be alittle perturbed imo.
I don't think Trump is seriously interested in war. Thinks playing tough will get a better deal which shows he knows little about that country. His NSA on the other hand is just itching for war and will try to manipulate dumbass into it. I was just looking at the specs on that drone. That is one serious piece of spying survaillance tech. No wonder Iran shot it down.
The deal was working? The second Iran was out of the deal they started ratcheting up nuclear enrichment which tells me that was there intention all along.
