Iran, the battle of all Arabs

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  1. scarlet witch

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    They protect Lebanon!! :roflol: morel like use, abuse and turn into a big fat bullseye.... who's going to protect Lebanon from Hezbollah...
     
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    That is what the President of Lebanon said. He would better know the situation than someone who supports genocide.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    of course he's going to say that... he's a supporter of Hezbollah, obviously the only one here that does not know the situation is you :lol:

    HEZBOLLAH HAS EFFECTIVELY WON THE LEBANESE PRESIDENCY

    http://www.newsweek.com/hezbollah-won-lebanese-presidency-520317
     
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    You obviously are very new to all this. He is a Maronite Christian, used to be Israel's staunchest supporters in the Region. The Lebanese Shia used to support Israel as well. Not now.

    https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/or...-aoun-unga-hezbollah-threat-syria-israel.html


    He used to be a general in the Lebanese Army and says Lebanon needs Hezbola to remain safe from Israel.

    Israel lost the support of the Shia after their occupation and they loss the Maronite Christians after their horrific attack in 2006 trying out their new Dahiya Doctrine.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :rolleyes: you're every bit as bad as Margot with her Saudi's, very selective in what you believe about Hezbollah. It's fine Alexa, we all know you support Hezbollah and are going to make up all sorts of crap to deny when something doesn't suit your agenda. So... it doesn't suit you to admit Michel Aoun is a Hezbollah supporter, unfortunately this means we've circled right back to you wasting my time by arguing over facts everybody are aware of... that is everybody except you.
     
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    Please do not twist things .
    They are an evil terror orginazation which Allah hates ( That's why he killed 2000 or more from them in Syria ).
    You support Hezbollah !
     
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    I never denied he was a Hezbollah supporter. I just stated the reason why.

    and now while we are on about Lebanon Hariri has put his resignation on hold. However his wife and children are still in Saudi Arabia so it is unlikely he will be free in what he says. It does look like the Sauds may be thinking of a compromise. That goes with their paranoia that the Houthi are another group being linked to Iran. Indeed they call them another Hezbollah. This however goes against US leaked intel.

    I supported Israel in my early life when I knew nothing about it, just because they were Jews and because of the Holocaust. I do not however support ethnic Nationalism and I do not support colonisation of other people's lands so you have a point. How Israel is at the moment is not supported by me. Were she to change then my position might change.

    Australia, the US and Canada are Israel's biggest supporters because just like Israel is doing you colonised lands and replaced the indigenous population so you are hardly someone to talk about agendas.
     
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    Please state what you believe I twisted because I am unaware of saying anything which was. Depending on what Hezbollah was doing I might well support them. For instance I think it is good that they got rid of AlQaeda/Isis from Syria though you no doubt supported them.

    I have not the time to spend online today so am going to try and stay off.
     
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    ok so we agree Aoun is a Hezbollah supporter and would definitely not be objective when it comes to Hezbollah

    I'm South African by birth... how do you rate that ito handing back colonised land :roflol: btw I agree with you on the horrific treatment of indigenous people by the Australian government and will add inhumane treatment of refugees to that long sorry saga

    There's no such thing as all good and all bad it's shades of grey, besides I'm too far removed so you won't find me taking sides other than what I believe to be the true scenario in the majority of these threads. However it is likely one day when I do happen to find myself directly involved in a thread I'd probably lie cheat and steal like the rest of them :lol:

     
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    That would depend on his integrity. It is perfectly possibly to support someone on for instance the need to protect your country but not on other issues. I grant it is nowadays extremely unusual for there to be anyone in politics with integrity but basically it depends on that. Added to that I have only very recently become aware that what is playing itself out in the ME is a Saudi/Iran battle. It is looking like I will need to be reassessing everything now I am aware that is going on.

    Well that hardly lets you off the hook!!!! People were there were colonising South Africa, not so much the resettling though that was there but more to do with taking the resources of the people, including their resources as workers, assuming you are not a black South African and if you were it would be unlikely you would be supporting Israel due to their apartheid.

    OK there we are in agreement.:)

    There is indeed no such thing as all good and all bad.
     
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    margot... margot are you in there lol... you're making excuses for him Alexa... trying to argue your way around the fact Aoun openly supports Hezbollah.... "yes he supports Hezbollah but maybe... just maybe he'll stand up to Hezbollah" (who btw not only controls him but also the Lebanese army) oh the lies... the lies you tell yourself to soothe your conscience... it's sad

    I'm cringing from the hypocrisy... your profile says Scottish so I'll not hold you responsible for the crimes against humanity committed by the Brits in Africa from the Sudan down to the Kalahari desert.

    But this

    https://www.abdn.ac.uk/slavery/pdf/scotland-africa-slaveryincaribbean.pdf

    Shame on you Alexa... I'm holding you personally responsible and won't let you off the hook
     
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    quit this it is cheap
    That may be a problem to you but Hezbollah is a resistance group and when a country is occupied as Lebanon was it has every right to create resistance groups. Why do you think there is a problem in him supporting Hezbollah. Do you actually believe any politicians even on the same side always agree with each other. I don't have a problem with this myself. Lebanon has a right to protect themselves. Lebanon had a very small army. It needs help. Hezbollah showed themselves to be very professional in 2006. He has not said he does not agree with Hezbollah eventually disarming just that now is not the time.

    Why do you see it hypocrisy if a country committed crimes, like of course the UK did giving Palestine to the Israelis for colonisation, when they do not support things. You appear to be someone who just likes slinging slogans and names,

    Yes I am aware of Scottish part in slavery. What does this have to do with supporting ethnic nationalism and colonialism in Israel.

    I think I will put you back on ignore. You do not discuss politics. You are just a pathetic person who clearly has had an argument with your parents and likes to use the net to abuse people.

    Pathetic
     
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    Yes and Prison is the biggest recruitment ground. As you say more often, though definitely not always, European Muslims have been people who did not fit in. I am sure by the way that I read the 9/11 ones were drinking and seeing prostitutes before their attack.

    I think you are being simplistic to put much emphasis on paradise but I think this does have value in that it can make their conscience feel ok in doing things which they normally could not do in good conscience.

    Yes, that would be so. The terror attacks we are talking about are only committed by people of Muslim descent or occasionally people who have converted. They argument is not about that. The argument is about this being intrinsic to Islam - rather than being caused by a variety of other things, for instance political, being groomed by Muslim extremists or generally having personality problems which the idea of becoming 'big' by being a terrorist appeals to or other psychiatric problems. They all seem to draw people to this.

    Yes, I don't have an argument with that. sounds reasonable.
     
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    Moishe Dayan wrote that Israel wanted to control Lebanon by installing a mid level Christian military guy as president and arming the Maronites.

    You recall the Sabra/ Shatilla? That was a joint venture by Israel and the Christians.
     
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    You're a sore loser Alexa, the irony of accusing others of all sorts of crimes completely lost on you with your less than stellar Scottish background. Remember you point a finger there's at least three others pointing back at you. You whine and cry about how everyone else needs to live up to your moral standards but history shows us those supposed moral standards are built on ignoring your own past and arrogantly walking around telling everyone else how bad and evil they are.

    As for Lebanon, Hezbollah is placing Lebanon in peril, apart from turning it into a big fat target for Saudi Arabia and Israel, there's likely to be more sanctions, it's almost $400 million in exports to Saudi Arabia are at risk thanks to Hezbollah, the jobs of hundreds of thousands of Lebanese in Saudi Arabia at risk. Hezbollah will be what sinks Lebanon, not what saves it.


     
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    Yeah because Israel alone could wipe out the Iranians. The Saud doesn't have the brain capacity to know how to do that with the Iranians.

    So the Saud took a play out of the Sicilians Playbook. Get a Right hand man that knows how to take care of business.
     
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    300,000 Lebanese live and work in Saudi Arabia.....
     
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    Yeah and.....what does that have to do with the Saud not being able to take on Iran by themselves?

    Just why doth.... the Saud tremble to go after Iran directly?:
     
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    Saudi Arabia doesn't want war.. Stop listening to Iranian and Russian propaganda.
     
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    Of course they don't want War with the Iranians. As they are afraid they will lose.
     
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    KSA has always wanted peace in the region.. They also wanted the region nuke free... and they have spent billions of dollars rebuilding Lebanon.
     
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    Well its looking like the Iranians don't want peace with the Saud. So all the Saud can do is get Israel to act as their Chief Enforcer and then cry to the US that they need help.
     
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    Israel won't attack Iran either.. They don't have mid air refueling capabilities on any scale.
     
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    Not true, the attack at Saint Charles train station and the nice one were commited by migrants, both were tunisian if I remember well.

    To know if it's intrinsic to islam, you have to consider what define islam :
    Their texts.
    And the texts do the apology of violence.
     
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    Defende. Sorry, many word between french and english look alike, and it's easy to mix up the words.
     

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