Iran threatens to block straights of Hormuz

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    What would be even better is if they were considered an economic partner, strategic ally and friend to America by its Dear Leader.
     
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    Allah is just Arabic for God.. Christian and Jewish Arabs also say Allah.
     
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    Now you are just trashing for the sake of it. I have pointed out a number of things you thought you knew but obviously didnt.

    Allah was adopted into Islam from the GET FRIGGIN" GO! Allah is the arabic name for GOD. Its the same damn god that the jews and the christians worship. The three abrahamic religions ALL agree on that.
     
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    Your good at FAIL.

    Ilia is Arabic for god

    Allah is god's proper name.

    An example, taken from the satanic verses.

    Tabari VI:66 "Umar said, 'By Allah I was by one of the idols of the Jahiliyyah. An Arab sacrificed a calf to it, and we were waiting for it to be divided up in order to receive a share. I heard coming from the belly of the calf a voice which was more penetrating than any I've heard. The dead calf's belly said, 'There is no ilah but Allah.'"
     
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    I'm sorry but that is incorrect.
    Muhammeds God was ArRamon.
    Allah doesn't even show up in the Qur'an until over halfway through.
    Except for the 4 line prayer preceding each chapter.

    And Allah is not the same god as the Christians and Jews.
     
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    With some reference to summarian text
    The Jews invented the God, it is theirs, they have the patient on it.

    The Christians stole the god, added more Gods to it, changed the rules, and turned on the Jews.

    The muslims stole the God, eliminated the Christian Gods, changed the rules again, and turned on the Christians and Jews.

    Now either God is a wishy washy schizophrenic, who simply cannot make up his mind, or they are different Gods.
     
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    Why, then, was I able to walk, hitch-hike etc throughout the Islamic Mid East for 10 - 11 months & only enjoy some of the most generous hospitality & friendliness from the locals than I have anywhere on the planet.
    I was, however "kidnapped" but only in the sense that the driver insisted in taking me to his village to feed me, introduce me to his friends and family & show me archeological wonders that I would otherwise never have seen.

    The Muslims were fascinated with America and, at that time (1973) still entranced with American cars, American movies, music etc etc.

    While my Muslim hosts were very curious people, the question I was most frequently asked was: "Why do Americans suddenly hate us?"

    I tried to explain the toxic influence of Zionist dominated US MSM & AIPAC's treacherous influence on US Mid East Policy making but they still couldn't understand how people as innovative & creative as Americans could be so easily duped & exploited by Zionist lobbies.

    It is a rarely mentioned reality that US - Islamic relations were reasonably good until the ZOA, AIPAC etc hijacked US Mid East policy & orchestrate previously nonexistent US - Islamic enmity.


    “Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)
     
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    Well then tell that to the Christians and Jews. They didn't get your message.
     
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    Why, then, was I able to walk, hitch-hike etc throughout the Islamic Mid East for 10 - 11 months & only enjoy some of the most generous hospitality & friendliness from the locals than I have anywhere on the planet.
    I was, however "kidnapped" but only in the sense that the driver insisted in taking me to his village to feed me, introduce me to his friends and family & show me archeological wonders that I would otherwise never have seen.

    The Muslims were fascinated with America and, at that time (1973) still entranced with American cars, American movies, music etc etc.

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    This goes back to what I have stated many times.

    Islam, and Muslims, are two different things.



    My beef is with Islam.
     
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    Sorry, anyone with knowledge of the religions will say they are different.

    Muhammed is 180 degrees different than Jesus.

    Muhammed was a murderer, thief, sexual pervert, slave trader, crime boss, and a slew of other adjectives.

    Jesus was none of these.


    I know lots of Christians and none I know agree with that.


    BTW, a typical response by people who don't know is.
    They are all pathways to the same God, pass the coffee.
     
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    The jews have a patent on god? Christians didn't steal the jewish god, they were jews before they became christians - Jesus was a jew, not a christian. And then Mo came along subsuming all that religious mumbo jumbo that went before, including but no limited to claiming all of the prophets the other two religions came up with.

    I am delighted to hear you consider god a human invention.
     
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    WTF? You want to compare the "son of god" to the "allah's prophet"? False comparison, they hold completely different roles in their respective religions.

    Your anecdotal experience with christian friends doesn't mean much when you take the "official doctrine" of vast majority of christian and jewish sects into account. The muslims by default believe its the same damn god.

    I guess guys like the Pope and the Chief Rabbis and the Archbishop of Cantebury and a horde of doctrinal leaders don't know what you do, because they all say the same thing. They are all pathways to god. Seriously, you can look it up.
     
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    NO the Jews didn't invent God.. They borrowed God from the North Coast Canaanites at Ras Shamra.. See Ugarit.
     
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    "Elohim" is a plural noun.

    Yahveh, or Yahweh, was one of only several Hebrew gods that the ancient Jews (one tribe of the Hebrews) worshiped.

    The Hebrew god El (the singular form of elohim) is another. The horns on this god, and others, denote power, and a representation of him is carved into a stone monument from Ras Shamra.

    Exodus 34:14 even specifically names one of the Hebrew gods, “whose name is Jealous,” and says he “is a jealous God.” Of what he is jealous, we do not know.

    Baal, another Semitic god from Ras Shamra, is also cut into non-flammable stone, as a durable witness for posterity, and reproduced below.


    The human-like Hebrew god El, the chief of the Elohim (gods), is one of the most important gods mentioned by name in the beginning books of the Bible.

    He also has a significant role in the archaeological records uncovered in the high priests’ libraries at ancient Ras Shamra.

    In Genesis, he is described as “the most high God” and in Exodus as “God Almighty.” Likewise, in the Ras Shamra texts, El, whose human-like body is portrayed below, is addressed as the god “Almighty.”
     
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    With the demise of ISIS and any territory they controlled, none. Before that have to go back to the end of the Ottoman Caliphate in the 1920s to see an example of such Islamic governance and law.
     
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    The Ottomans were pretty loose.. In Palestine and elsewhere they pretty much let Jews, Christians and Muslims play by their own rules in their neighborhood populations.
     
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    Tell that to all the Christian boys enslaved into the Jannisaries. Or the victims of the Armenian Genocide, Greek Genocide or Assyrian Genocide.
     
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    ISIS has also gained access to weapons from other sources through the capture or sale of Syrian military stocks supplied to armed opposition groups in Syria by countries including Turkey, the Gulf States and the U.S., according to the organization.
    These weapons, including many accumulated by Iraq over five war-torn decades, were designed or manufactured in 25 countries and range from assault rifles to tanks and anti-aircraft defense systems, the report said.
    Amnesty International found that the quantity and range of ISIS' arms and ammunition "ultimately reflects decades of irresponsible arms transfers to Iraq and multiple failures by the U.S.-led occupation administration to manage arms deliveries and stocks securely, as well as endemic corruption in Iraq itself."
    By failing to account for the weapons that have been transferred to Iraq over the last several decades, the U.S. and other supplier nations have allowed them to freely flow through the region and fall into the hands of ISIS and other armed groups in the region, the human rights group charged.
     
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    They also got weapons from Obama. As the liberal source states.

    You asked me how ISIS got weapons inadvertently from Obama. Your question was easily answered.

    Do you want more sources? Or are you like the die hard trump fans that can't accept facts
     
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    LOLOL.. Do you REALLY think Obama gave weapons to ISIS? Libya was awash inweapons because Gadaffi had been on two huge shopping sprees between 2008-2010.

    Your liberal source is idiotic.
     
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    The problem we never acknowledged, is we supported different sides of Islamic aggression, maybe not knowing earlier, they change sides like others change underwear.
    We as the Kaffir, will always be on the losing end.
    Both sides are terrorist, to the other side, and it is a question of which terror we support.

    We had this absolutely stupid assumption, like Saddam, that all we have to do is kill the terror leader, and they will have elections and all is rosy.
    Not so, the other side takes over, with the Qur'an and sunnah as the leader, and looks at the previous side as "Bad Muslims", that need to be killed.
     
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    No they didn't.. The Hebrews borrowed their god from the north coast Canaanites at Ras Shamra.. They took three gods of their pantheon. Much of Psalms is also borrowed from their poetry which predates the Hebrews by nearly a thousand years.
     
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    They actually had many sources, but it is them, who assembled it into the start of what we know it as today
     
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    Perhaps YOU thought we could kill Saddam and change their culture. People who live in the ME know differently.

    I don't think you really understand Kaffir.
     

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