Iranian woman who bravely stood on a pillar box in Tehran waving her hijab is missing

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Revisionists who abandoned the like of the Labor Theory of Value? Marx himself? (Marx makes Adam Smith look like a Hemingway.)

    Have you taken an economics course?
     
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    It's legal for a woman to walk down a city street topless in Canada.

    So, do women do it? Are you kidding? Of course not.

    P.S. I take it back ... I saw a 40+-year-old woman doing in Vancouver last year.
     
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    Yes, and it was ****.
     
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    If government opens to door for illegals do employers have a choice?

    Its a competative market where the high bid usually loses the sale
     
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    Let's start not with an argument, but a question. How would you define "value" in an economic sense?
     
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    Exchange value and use value are the two types of economic value
     
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    I'm not sure why the hijab is being compared to walking around topless... she just doesn't want to put the stupid thing on her head day in and day out ffs
     
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    Use value is not effected at all by the amount of labor required to attain. Exchange value is, but not solely, and not surely. Indeed, it can't be, because exchange value is highly circumstantial. The exchange value of bottled water is much higher during a natural emergency, regardless of the amount of labor required to attain.

    So let's forge ahead with a clear question: How would the labor theory of value deal with the different value of a bottle of water in Katrina-stricken New Orleans versus in a well-run metropolitan area?
     
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    Perhaps she's in a brothel.
     
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    And I don't like bending down and putting my shoes on, but I do. Besides, many of the head scarves are super attractive. Look at it this way. When I was young and we were depressed, we bought a new hat. At least the Iranian women can buy a new scarf.


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    Well you wear it then... EVERY DAY... don't force someone else to wear a hijab because you love it.
     
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    A hijab is not necessary in Iran, only head scarves so let's stop the nonsense. It's not Saudi Arabia.

    Here are some women in Tehran:

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    omg that's so beautiful... I want to wear it ... always... my entire life.... for every day I breathe can I please put a piece of material on my head ..... wait... do you think the rest of the outfit has something to do with it... nice con job.

    You like it so much... you wear it, there's enough women in Iran who says.... Enough! No more Hijab!
     
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    A head scarf is not a hijab. The modesty law in Iran does not require women to wear hijabs, only head scarves, and from what I noticed in the pictures, the scarf doesn't even cover their heads. In Turkey though it does, although the head covering there is quite attractive.
     
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    Oh really... no kidding... it's not???? :roflol:

    this thread is about the Hijab... now you can put whatever you like on your head. Fact is women in Iran is protesting about the Hijab and laws that forces them to wear it wherever they go.

    Here... I can really see you in this
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    I visit London 3 or 4 times a year ..
    You should talk to police officers and Taxi drivers .. Some areas are under Sharia laws
    You can walk in a street and feel like you are in the middle of Mecca
     
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    I don't subscribe to the labor theory of value, but it was the construct used by economists at the time. Not just Marx. The business cycle might not be only affected by rise and fall of labor prices, but Marx's analysis (one of his laws of economic motion) did forecast the boom and bust cycles which are, in part, affected by the issue. In other words, when you have a booming economy, all other things being equal, you will have greater demand for labor, bringing employment costs up which can then raise the price of good produced, lower demand for the goods, and take back to a recession.
     
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    Attitudes in Iran on the 'dress code' are undergoing major changes and those changes will also affect Iranian laws and their application overtime. But while the dress code requirements were not all that popular in more affluent neighborhoods in Iran for a long time, until recently, they were actually supported by a majority of the population as a whole. Significantly, that support is waning and today a clear majority do not want the government to prosecute anyone for hijab violations (and Iran has basically stopped doing so except when the violation and intended to grab headlines). And a pularity or near majority are against government these kind of regulations today, whereas those opposed to such regulations were only 34% of the population a decade ago.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ts-drop-mandatory-hijab-study-says/310541002/
    Half of Iran wants to drop mandatory hijab, study says
     
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    To connect the discussion on hijab with the discussion on economic theory, there is line of argument that favors Iran developing its own dress code and model of clothing both to reflect its own cultural norms but also because they want Iran to be the fashion capital for the country and much of the region, instead of New York, Paris, Rome etc charting the fashion people should wear. And making quite a few bucks from it!
     
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    Given Christianity and Judaism's views on sexuality, something humans enjoy, I'm surprised any of these were accepted with credibility.
     
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    If you come to Tehran, the fashion in the middle class and upper middle class areas will resemble what you see below.

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    Young women after voting in Iran's elections:
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    But, of course, you also have areas where the prevailing dress code is more like the ones below, also depicting women voters:
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    Why is a head covering considered a measure of modesty? Are Iranian women so devastatingly beautiful that their heads will drive a man to lust?

    Sorry...I'm just not seeing it.
     
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    Some Iranian are quite beautiful and some aren't. My guess is that -- with some exceptions -- the more beautiful ones don't like to cover up as much as the less beautiful ones:) Seriously, though, there is an element of truth in what I said and something to correct a misconception as well. The biggest supporters of Iran's hijab rules fall in 3 categories. I will skip over two of those categories here for now, but one of the categories include plenty of middle aged housewives from more traditional (but financially affluent) backgrounds (known colloquially as 'Bazari wives') who are simply insecure and don't want to see their husbands enticed by a younger, more beautiful, women looking for a "sugar daddy' or some such thing.
     
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    I think it's the opposite.
    Persian men do not want their wives enticed by younger and more beautiful men !
    Put strips on them and lock them indoors.
     

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