Iranian woman who bravely stood on a pillar box in Tehran waving her hijab is missing

I see....so it is a jealousy thingy? I always thought is was religion oriented male control based. It still makes little sense to me in a world striving for freedom and equality.

 

I mentioned there are, broadly, 3 categories who support these rules. I mentioned one of them. The other 2 basically fall into the following categories: 1) people from very traditional or religious backgrounds, regardless of gender. 2) less affluent Iranians who, even if not religious, find the hijab rules egalitarian and something that also cover socio-economic differences.

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On the latter, I have heard working class people of both genders complain about the "streets being turned into a fashion show". The male bread winner's complaints end up being up having to dish out money he can't afford so his daughter can keep up with the fashion. Or, worse yet, worries that the daughter will end up turning into a prostitute of sorts or a call girl so she can afford the fashion and other amenities associated with "westernization". The women from less affluent backgrounds, on the other hand, just feel very uncomfortable and out place walking alongside other women who even look much better because of the fashion and the like. Essentially, they often feel insecure and inadequate in this environment.

 

I didn't respond specifically to this part. The fact is that Iran's hijab rules are a compromise that actually satisfy neither side! As with many compromises, they don't make sense on principle. For those who are opposed to westernization on ideological grounds, or who are religious and/or traditional, just putting a headscarf and then finding ways to show as much hair as possible despite the headscarf, is nothing like what they feel should be happening. On the other hand, for a large number of women who aren't happy with these restrictions, they are more than annoying. They are insulting and occasionally quite limiting. Particularly during the summer as well as when it comes to certain situations and places, such as being able to swim and go to the beach without looking ridiculous. The only good thing about the compromise is that it can spur a different fashion and this distinguishable fashion can have certain benefits economically for certain industries and people.

 

Yes, to do that in america, given our bill of rights would be wrong. But obviously iran does not have our form of gov't do they? And it is no business of yours what form of govt that they do have. Clean up you own back yard, and it needs a good cleaning, then you would not be a hypocrite by trying to clean up the other person's back yard. You can start by demanding a gov't by and for the people here in american actually represents the People, so it can be a gov't by and for the people. Princeton used congressional record to prove it is not a gov't by and for the people, in that it only represents special interests and elites. Or, wallow in your own hypocrisy. Like a hog in a mud pit.

 

There has not been a demonstration that has been large enough to demonstrate what you are claiming. If people, the majority feel as you say they do, they will do something about it. Change comes from the bottom up. And unless it does, there will be no change.

 

You're a bookend to the dupes around here supporting Trump.

You them.

 

The government needs to pass effective e-verify legislation so that employers don't dare hire illegals.

Why is President Bone Spurs yapping about a border wall and saying NOTHING about e-verify? Half of illegals overstay a visa after being welcomed through the front door.

 

In bad ol' Canada, women can do both. Canadians don't get loopy over the sight of a woman's hair or nipples. Imagine that!

 

E-Verify is a step in the right direction

But we need direct action by the government at the border and in the interior of the country also

 

No problemo in Iran! Women are equal!

The next Supreme Leader...

 

She has a pretty face

But whats going on in that muslim brain?

Does she support suicide bombers in public market places?

 

Where in London? I'm in London regularly. Cough up an address.

(This should be good.)

 

Sadaf Taherian is an Iranian actress banned from working.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/sadaf-taherian-iranian-actress-who-published-photos-on-instagram-without-a-hijab-condemned-has-a6713996.html​

Does she look like someone who supports suicide bombers?

 

There are many beautiful women in hollywood who are totally leftwing loony tunes

So I dont go by looks alone

 

It was used bt some economists in some contexts. So what? Economics has moved on from Ricardo and Smith.

Do you want to focus on what Marx wrote or more modern thinking?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_cycle​

Care to explain? The bottom quintiles get most of their income from labor.

 

And physics has moved on from Newton and Galileo. There's a lot to learn from the history of any field. Marx was particularly ambitious, and struck on a few important strains of thought. It's a shame, in my opinion, that few have really cared to follow his greater lines of thinking while shedding the trappings.

Economics has indeed moved on. Menger did more than develop a new theory of value, he invented a new basis for economic theory. It's a shame that he never realized it, and few do.

 

Obviously not. So what?

RED HERRING ALERT!

The kleptocrats running Iran are trying to stop change and they're using a theocracy to hold on to power.

This has what to do with Iran or you claim, "I figure, if enough of the iranian population does not want to live under theocratic laws, they will have the numbers to change Iran?" It remains to be seen how the Iranian people will be able to overcome the theocracy/kleptocracy.

 

Maybe the decimation of ISIS hasn't reached the MSM yet. https://www.apnews.com/745daed8aa62...joined-IS-faced-almost-certain-death-in-Raqqa

 

Could be he gave us a clue here.

 

The decimation of ISIS in Syria is thanks mostly to Russia and Assad's forces.

The fact that after the US-Saud dog in Syria went off its leash - moving in to Iraq and so on ... does not change the fact that the US (in conjunction with Saud and other nations) armed supported the rebel opposition in Syria which consisted mostly of, and was completely dominated by Islamist extremists such as Al Qaeda/Al Nusra and the extremist groups and extremist foreign fighters that went on to form the modern incarnation of ISIS.

As is the case with any dog who gets off its leash and bites its owner ...it must eventually be put down.

 

I say, in order not to be a hypocrite, and therefore moot, to clean up your own backyard before you start thinking about cleaning up Iran's. Or, get the log out of your own eye, before you try to remove the mote from the other feller's eye. But you will not do this. Instead of speaking from some high ground, you are speaking among the piles of whale sh*t which is on the bottom of deep oceans. Cannot get lower than that.

And again, when enough of the iranian people want the change that you want, although it is non of your business, no more than it is the business of iranians how the US does not represent its own people, unless it is an elite, then the iranian people will get that change. Just like when the american people get tired in sufficient numbers of not being represented, they will change it here.

It would be nice and informative to see a poll of the iranian people, to determine how many want to retain their theocracy and how many people do not. That would give you an idea of what most of those people actually want. But if they are happy with these head covering laws, by majority, then while it was not your business to begin with, it is still not any of your business. And perhaps you should accept what the majority want, and just forget...about..it...and spend your time in cleaning up the cesspool in america's back yard. So america can be an example to emulate, instead of the example it sets today. And it is a horrible example to set, for others to emulate. The world could not bear it!

 

I believe the Democratic Party's response is that she chose to wear hijab and chose to be imprisoned, gang raped, tortured or murdered if she didn't.

 

Really? No credit to Trump at all? D you acknowledge at least that ISIS was created and mushroomed during the Obama Administration?

Here's a progress report from "Mad Dog" Mattis.

It is being put down, and no thanks to BHO.

 

Not all the world is searching for the liberal West's concept of freedom and equality. Much of the world equates it with the grotesque uglyness of western 'girth' from foods which are meant to kill them, as well as with the obscenities and vulgarity of our everyday speech and actions.

I'm not joking tecoyah. Take a objective look at what you see in the street, what you read on facebook, and what you hear in the movies and TV. Unless one is raised in a society like ours, where we have learned to tolerate it over the years, why would any logical person want to accept our standards, and live in what we consider freedom and equality?