Iran's Angle in Yemen

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    Iran claims they have no interest other than shared principles and a desire to see Yemen liberated from US hegemony. .. and no doubt control the choke points on the Red Sea and Strait of Hormuz.

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    Iran's Angle in Yemen

    On May 10, the president of the political council of the Houthi movement (Ansarullah) in Yemen, Saleh Habra, met the Iranian ambassador in Sanaa, Mahmoud Hassan Ali Zadeh, in a first public meeting between the two sides.

    The Houthi movement, which was founded in 1992, takes its name from formal leader Hussein Badreddin al-Houthi, who was killed by the Yemeni army in September 2004.

    The senior representative of the Houthis in the National Dialogue Conference, Mohammed Nasser al-Bakhiti, confirmed the meeting and told Al-Monitor in a phone interview that the Iranian ambassador had visited Habra in his office in Sanaa.

    Anti-Houthi (Yemeni) websites claimed that this is not the first meeting and that there were several secret meetings between Iranian and Houthi officials.

    They added that the meeting’s aim was to urge the Houthi movement to fabricate a problem as a pretext to withdraw from the National Dialogue Conference, because the dialogue would hinder their plans of the recovery of the Zaydi Imamate’s rule. Al-Karama quoted undisclosed sources that the Iranian ambassador expressed his resentment over tightening Yemeni security that recently prevented smuggling weapons to the Houthi movement.

    Bakhiti denied all of these allegations and stated that there were no secret meetings between Houthi and Iranian officials, and that the meetings focused on cooperation between the two sides in the interest of Yemen and Iran. He asserted that the meeting was not directed against anyone, in reference to the accusations of ruining the national dialogue.

    The Iranian ambassador considered the recent accusations of the US ambassador in Yemen, Gerald Firestein, over the foreign interference in the internal affairs of Yemen, a cover for US interference in the affairs of the Yemeni people.

    He added that Iran has supported Yemen’s unity and its national dialogue — conditioned on refusing foreign states’ interference in Yemen — indicating that US intervention would upset the Yemeni people.

    Firestein has accused Iran and Hezbollah of funding the Houthis and providing them with arms, while Tehran and the Lebanese resistance party have always denied that.

    It is noteworthy to mention that Yemeni-Iranian relations have experienced a chill since June 2004, after the first war between the Houthi movement and the regime of former President Ali Abdullah Saleh. Sanaa has repeatedly accused Iran of supporting the Houthis.


    Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/05/iran-angle-yemen-relations.html#ixzz3VibwmPXm
     
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    Just a bit more background on Iran's interest in the al Houthis of Yemen.
     
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    Main thing is,.. them Houthis are Shia just like Iranians. And the Saudi's with help of the US oppress the Shia Jemen, just like the Shia are oppressed in Bahrain. If you recall that uprising, the Saudi's send their tanks towards the country. And a heck of a lot of mosques got leveled to the ground.

    It also did not strike me as a coincidence that the major Sunni nations forged (plans to make) an army together,... just days before the nuclear talks with the Iran finished successfully.
     
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    Do you remember the day of the massive protest in Bahrain? One of my dearest friends was there and he said 300 Americans from Saudi ARAMCO came across the Causeway and played in a golf tournament that day. He and his wife live in Bahrain.. She teaches school and didn't take any time off. The media made too much of it.

    Most Shia in Bahrain are merchants and they do quite well.. The lower class Shia who won't go to school or work are sort of the underclass and they are always ready to act up with encouragement from Iran.. They have done so since I was a girl decades ago.

    The Shia in KSA are also loyal with few complaints.
     
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    Sorry I failed to date this piece... Its May 2013.
     
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    It still is a overwhelmingly Shia community being oppressed by a tiny Sunni elite, and with the help of Saudi Arabia and the US,.. they leveled 1 mosque after the other in their revenge religious purge.
     
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    The troubles in Bahrain were a media picnic.. If the nutty Shia take over ALL the money will leave Bahrain for the Emirates.. and the financial sector is strong.

    KSA doesn't want Iran across the causeway.
     
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    Those shia are the indigenous people. And their places of worship got bulldozered by it's oppressive Sunni government, thanks to the Saudi's and the US. Its a media picnic... because of that.
     
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    Sort of indigenous.. The Shia seized Bahrain in 899 AD..

    Most Shia are not a problem for anyone.. But that underclass that won't go to school or work are a problem. I am not crazy about that bunch anyway.. I got caught in a riot as a child and they were hysterical violent and sexually charged like in a frenzy.
     
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    Yeah... seized it while the rest converted. And to say to people who lived somewhere at least 1300 at the same place, to be ethnic cleansed so only the elite sunni can stay behind... that is just a suggestion that is totally nuts. And the elite is the problem. It's them who refuse to have democracy in any way.
     
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    Where did you get the idea that they are or have been ethnically cleansed.. Have you been to Bahrain or Saudi Arabia.. You probably don't know that there is also a Jewish community in Bahrain.
     
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    The part that you suggested they must be removed / moved to an other country.
    Besides that, those people have been living there 900 years longer than the Sunni elite.
    And it still is the group that buldozers over other peoples temples who are the problem.
     
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    Oh I never said anything about them being moved to another country or ethnically cleansed. I was talking about banking and the financial sector in Bahrain.. If the Shia take over, the MONEY will go to the emirates.
     
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    So what.
    There is not that much worse than an oppressive elite bulldozing the temples of the fast majority they oppress.
     
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    The Bahraini government has built twelve new Shia mosques. Shia make up the merchant class and most of them do not riot.....
     
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    It looks like you're coming up with an excuse that Sunni elite gets to bulldozer the temples of the Shia majority that they are oppressing.
    Like it aint that bad they bulldozer a lot of them, in the middle of the night... since they build a couple of new ones.
    /facepalm
     
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    Most of those mosques were makeshift and illegal..

    Are you currently in Bahrain?
     
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    Again... you're coming up with an excuse that Sunni elite gets to bulldozer the temples of the Shia majority that they are oppressing.
    Also.. some of them mosques were over 400 years old. So what you put up,.. are lies.
     
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    Perhaps they were old .. My friends said it was NOT a big deal but the media had really hyped it.. They are Americans and they aren't Muslims. In any case... nobody like rioters .. neither Sunni nor Shia.. and if you had ever been in a Shia riot, you wouldn't like it.
     
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    The sunni elite attacked over 500 shia religious sites, even graves.
    Your "friend" is absolutely nuts to say that this fast religious purge of the terrorizing government is no biggy.
    But good job sweettalking all this.

    America supports sunni oppressive dictatorships and hates the shia,
    ever since their installed massacring Iranian Shah (which the US placed there with a coup) got kicked out + their embassy destroyed.

    People hate oppressive religious purging regimes a heck of a lot more.
    Except you. You're sweettalking it.
    Good going.
     
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    How many people died in Bahrain?
     
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    Amazing how you keep coming up with new excuses why a minority of sunni who are the elite get to destroy hundreds of shia temples of people they violently oppress, thanks to the Saudi and the US.
     
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    They didn't destroy hundreds of Shia temples, but no one gets rewarded for trying to tear down the economy and well being of the majority of citizens in any given state.
     
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    They did destroy over 500 of temples, shrines, mosques etc.
    There is a wikipedia page about it. stop telling lies please.
     
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    Wiki is not always a good source... In any case Yemen is headed for failed state status.. I'd hate to see that happen in Bahrain... Its bad enough in Libya, Syria, Egypt and Iraq...

    Come down off your high horse.....

    Consider for a moment that literacy in Afghanistan has fallen from 90% to 30% because kids haven't been able to go to school for nearly two generations.
     

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