Iraqi TV: Iran’s Gen. Soleimani killed in Baghdad strike

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Saddam did not invite us into Iraq - Gaddafi did not invite us into Libya, Assad did not invite is into Syria, the Houthi's did not invite us into Yemen.

    You seem to think its OK for the US to kill people in other nations. You just have a problem when it is our Al Qaeda/ISIS allies that are being killed.

    Still waiting for evidence that supports your claims.
     
  2. IranianStudent1

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    Good or bad, United States attacked an Iranian citizen, let alone general, for whatever reason.
    Be happy that I am not the decision maker.
     
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    Hate to tell you this but Iraq invited us now.
     
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    See, this is the kicker. Trump asked Iraq to host peace talks, Irant 2nd highest official himself shows up for said talks then as the motorcade heads to meetup with the Iraqi PM Trump orders a hit taking out 1 of iran's leaders and 24 Iraqi brass. In Iraq. In Bagdad. In a civilian airport. Then when everyone starts freaking out Trump says he'll take out cultural/civilian targets if Iraq/Iran tries to defend themselves.

    ****. Trump.
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    You just make that up yourself or did this new conspiracy theory come from crazy DU?
     
  6. DavidMK

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    Might want to check the news. And Trump's Twitter feed doesn't count.
     
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    I do every day, and you are full of conspiracy
     
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  8. DavidMK

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    Sure... Trump didn't take out Iran's #2 after inviting him to peace talks. He didn't kill 24 Iraqi officers at Baghdad International. He didn't threaten to attack Iranian cultural sites in revenge for the hostages taken during the Revolution. He didn't threaten Iraq with crippling sanctions after they told all American military forces to leave. It's all a conspiracy I made up.

    Please, don't insult everyone's intelligence.
     
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    All your points are valid, except General Soleimani was not Iran's #2 person politically or otherwise, despite western reports which try to suggest as much. He was the commander of Iran's oversees forces (the Quds force) and a trusted adviser in that capacity to Iran's supreme leader. But his portfolio was focused on specific theaters and outside those areas, he really had not much say in Iranian policies or politics.

    That said, in one way General Soleimani was the #1 figure in Iran: based on all polls which have been conducted for several years, he was the most popular public figure in Iran, with 80% viewing him as a hero. Which is why his death has touched almost all Iranians and united its people in a way that nothing else had done up to now. And besides his popularity in Iran, he was also a hugely popular leader for many people outside of Iran, including (but not limited to) of course those who supported or belonged to various Shia militia in Iraq, in Syria, as well as Hezbollah in Lebanon.
     
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    Still no links ?

    Why would trump invite him for peace talks, on what?
     
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    He makes no valid points the US was not in a hot war with IRAN.
     
  12. Iranian Monitor

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    Trump didn't invite Soleimani for peace talks, but according to the Iraqi prime minister, he welcomed the Iraqi prime minister's effort to invite Soleimani to Iraq as part of an effort to bridge differences between Iran and Saudi Arabia.
     
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    Be specific. What did he say that is wrong?
     
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    To keep things from getting out of hand after the riot outside our embassy. Trump told the Iraqis he didn't want to get dragged into an Iranian backed insurgency in Iraq and asked them to mediate talks. Soleimani flew into Baghdad as Iran's representative and as the motorcade was leaving the airport an American drone took it out killing Soleimani and 24 Iraqi military officers including the top commander of Iraq's irregular forces.

    The Iraqi Parliament voted to expel all American forces for this act of war against them, Iran threatened war and the EU told Trump to go **** himself.

    Trump threatened Iranian civilian targets and promised crippling sanctions on Iraq.

    Hezbollah promised to only go after military targets when/if the fighting started and Iran released a 1/2 serious 1/2 joke list of Trump branded properties in the Mideast in response to his threats of attacking civilian targets in Iran.

    Trump tried to satisfy the War Powers Act via Tweet to which the house said 'No U!' because the Act calls for a well outlined document (so not a Tweet) or in person meeting justifying action to Congress within 48 hours of military action.

    And this is the state of affairs currently.
     
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    "Qassem Soleimani, the Iranian Quds Force commander who was killed in a US drone attack in Baghdad on Friday, was in Iraq to negotiate a de-escalation in tensions with Saudi Arabia, according to the Iraqi prime minister.

    Adel Abdul Mahdi, Iraq’s caretaker prime minister, told his parliament on Sunday that President Trump called him to ask for help in mediating with Iran
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...scalating-tensions-Saudis-killed-PM-says.html
     
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    That is more or less what I was trying to say as well. But he wasn't in Iraq on Trump's invitation as, frankly, no Iranian official is allowed to have contacts or talk to the US. Trump did invite Iran's Foreign Minister, Zarif, to the While House for talks a while back (according to Senator Paul), but Zarif refused. And Trump was desperate to have a meeting with Iran's president Rouhani on the sidelines of the General Assembly, but Rouhani refused to meet or talk to him.
     
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    Why didn't he just fly to Saudi Arabia? Was he stopping off for a quick terrorist action before his big meeting?
     
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    That story reeks of bullshit. The former head of the Quds Force is a diplomat now? :lol:

    And what do you make of "Iraqi brass" that founded and led the Iranian-backed militia (Kata'ib Hezbollah) that is responsible for attacking U.S. bases and our embassy in Baghdad?

    **** them.
     
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    He was much more than just the head of the Quds force.
     
  21. Iranian Monitor

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    What a silly question. Regardless of whether you believe the Iraqi PM (who has referenced talking to Trump himself and which is something that Trump can be questioned on as well), in his version, the Iraqis would be the intermediaries to begin helping bridge differences between Iran and Saudi Arabia. This would be a first step in a process and any direct meetings between the two sides would require further steps and would probably be held in a neutral country anyway.
     
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    It seems like a fine line when you agree that it is true that "Adel Abdul Mahdi, Iraq’s caretaker prime minister, told his parliament on Sunday that President Trump called him to ask for help in mediating with Iran". And then the "caretaker prime minister" called on Soleimani to step up to the plate. Remember, the title of that article says:
    "Iraqi prime minister says Qassem Soleimani was in Iraq to 'discuss de-escalating tensions between Iran and Saudis' when he was killed - and claims Trump had asked for help mediating talks after embassy attack".

    That says it, right there. If you disagree your argument is with Daily Mail.
     
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    More conspiracy?

    Where are the links??
     
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    In war torn Iraq, where he had just come from organizing the destruction of the US Embassy and he was just there for a meeting to deescalate tensions? Yea, right. Especially since this terrorist had a history of killing and organizing bombings in Iraq.

    Sorry, not buying that nonsense at all. He was there to carry out more destruction.

    Now he is dead and the world is a better place without him in it.
     
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    Yeah, he was Javad Zarif's stunt double. :lol:

    Now he's dead, which is the only thing that really matters...
     

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