Is Biden an illegitimate President?

Well done, pointing out all the contradictory claims and hypocrisy, represented by the idea in the OP-- which is clearly just one more thin pretext, for installing the losing candidate. But what else can be expected, when the Idolized One, himself, is suggesting an abandonment of all Constitutional principles?

 

And now Elon can censor opinions, just because he disagrees with them. You are mistakenly asking for the impossible, regarding our past election, when it sounds like you should have started a thread about establishing online media regulations.

 

The only evidence of which, so far, has come from Right Wing imaginations, like your own.

 

It really doesn't matter. Biden is the legitimate President even if he was cheating seven ways to Sunday and we had all the receipts. Elections are not like poker where if you catch someone cheating you turn the table over. The time to do something about the election was over December 14, 2020 when the electoral college voted.

 

I see Biden as an illegitimate President only in that it took government interference to get him elected. No use crying about it. The damage has been done....we just need to concentrate on "how it was done" and what we can do about it so it doesn't happen again. There WERE key governmental players. What we need to do is concentrate on how we deal with a "compromised President" for the next two years! Several Nations have held their "payoffs" over Joe's head for sometime now. His decisions have definitely been swayed over the millions upon millions the Biden Crime Family has made over the past 6 or more years. Hunter's laptop was never about Hunter....it is about the compromised "Big Guy". Perhaps pressure should be brought to bear upon the "little meth head" to determine the exact story concerning "Creepy Joe"!

 

It would be sad if Elon censors opinions, but he would be doing it on his own accord.....NOT on the advice of the FBI and other governmental agencies lieing and giving false information!! See the difference there DEF??? Also the idea that James Baker who has already shown his elite bias in promoting the "Russian Collusion Hoax" after being relieved at that duty, became a "governmental stealth lawyer" for Twitter. Exactly why he was removed by Elon!

 

Let us not forget the role Zuckerburg played. If a conservative did that he would be facing a RICO case and life in orison for multi state election interference. Forget the Russians! They were pikers compared to our oligarchs.

I consider Biden sleepwalking the country into a big war.

 

Are you suggesting that the Trump Admin, the Trump DOJ and the Trump FBI were being run by Joe Biden? If so, why not Obama?

 

All I know about this, is what I have recently read, which was that the FBI had warned media companies of expected foreign propaganda, in advance of the 2020 election. The Twitter's Chief censor, & "head of site integrity" at the time, Yoel Roth, had even signed a declaration to the FEC (so under threat, if he lied, of perjury charges), that:

There had actually been a complaint about Twitter's action, made to the Federal Election Commission, in October of 2020, by the Tea Party Patriots Foundation, which that group lost. The above statement to the FEC, had been part of that complaint investigation process. And this story comes from the ultra Right wing, Washington Examiner:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/twitter-the-fbi-and-the-first-amendment

I have seen no evidence, however, tying these FBI warnings, to the Biden campaign. In fact the Twitter person to whom Musk has delegated the exposing of "the truth," himself stated in his first information dump, that there was no evidence, of which he was aware, tying anything to the Biden campaign. So the real "difference" would be that if Elon censored something, we would presumably know that, as he would not likely have a problem admitting it; but what you are alleging, we have no evidence to support.

 

Guess we;ll find out!

 

I don't know what the OP's thoughts are on this matter, but I'll answer this for me. I don't know if Biden got more votes than Trump or not. It's up in the air. Unfortunately, you Democrats decided to astronomically implement mail-in voting, which has a positive correlation with voter fraud, and there were a lot of historical models, such as the bellwether counties, which Biden lost, that coincidentally became null and void. So, for me, I don't know whether he won more votes.

Assuming that Biden did win more votes, I think it's a perfectly valid question to ask whether he would have won the votes that he won if the Democrats did not rig the election. According to Time, the establishment rigged the election: there was a "a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information" And there is evidence that the control of information, such as censoring the Hunter laptop story, did fundamentally change the election in Biden's favor.

Who cares what you think, dude? The Biden Campaign clearly did not think as you are thinking--or pretending to think. Clearly, they thought they were doing damage control by censoring that information. Biden's biggest strength was coming across as presidential, as moral, and being pure as the wind-driven snow. The Hunter laptop story would have sullied that image, thus removing the facade that the Biden campaign built. They did not want to have that hard work undone. So, they had the Hunter laptop story censored. They deprived the American voter from having all the facts about Biden before making their decision. The Biden campaign hoodwinked voters, depriving them of information that may have swayed their vote.

 

He's a racist sleepy pedo sob.

 

So then you would agree that The National Enquirer's stopping the release of the Trump Porn Star affairs story in 2015, 2016 campaign
means that Trump stole the 2016 election, right?

No?

Yeah - it's not about the truth for you, is it? It's just pure party bullcrap. Whatever.

 

You are seriously comparing the National Enquirer refusal to publish a story with Twitter censoring the New York Post, which is the oldest newspaper in the country, and any other person trying to share the story?

Seriously?

You are making that comparison?

 

What new facts?
Spreading "disinformation" about the elections =/= cheating in the 2020 election result or lying about the 2020 election result.


And there is just 1 side who is lying about the 2020 election result, and that's Trump and his henchmen in the GOP.
You lot did the recounting and all the legal battles possible. Your side just lost.

Get over it and stop lying. It's just unpatriotic and anti democratic.
Go to Venezuela if you want to cheat in elections.

 

We will never know. There is not way to investigate the 2020 election because the ballots are gone. Nevertheless he is the president, legitimate or not, and a walking disaster.

 

The comparison is pathetic and only shows the lefts diehard support for anything left.....even at the cost of compromising the 1st amendment!

 

Is fox or RW radio stumping for a party or person for gov't office also mean the one they support is an illegitimate office holder?
Twitter is just another form of media.

 

I'd say musk might need to be careful. Exposing corruption in bureaucracy is more dangerous than ratting out the mob. Look at Snowden and assange.

They snuffed out Epstein to keep their secrets.

 

No Biden would have gotten less.

Focus on what's being said dude.

Polls suggest otherwise. And if he wouldn't have what was the point in covering it up?

You don't cover up things you don't think are a big deal.

But if it's only because the media was lying about him than is it legitimate?

So why did the media cover up the laptop thing?

Sure but it's she a legitimate vice president? Biden only picked her because she is so horrible nobody would dare remove him from office. Even Democrat voters hated her. And if bidens legitimacy is in question, so is hers.

All you've pointed out is they occupy the office. Occupancy doesn't equal legitimacy.

 

Every American, regardless of political affiliation, should be looking at the Fox News report on the Twitter scandal. The FBI was working with Twitter to suppress conservative speech and the news about the Hunter Biden laptop during 2020. This is as big a deal was Watergate when Nixon covered up the break-in at the Democratic Party headquarters.

The FBI was having weekly contacts with high Twitter officials as which stories would be suppressed. The FBI and the DOJ have no business getting involved with elections in this manner.

Is Biden an illegitimate president? Maybe. Is he tainted? There is no question about that.

 

Rigged Election

LONDON TIMES: “The secrets of Hunter Biden’s laptop spell trouble for Joe/When a trove of emails raised questions about the lucrative business dealings of the Biden family, America’s tech, media and intelligence elites stifled the story.”

With the Lying Fake News Media, it takes the foreign press to tell us the real news.

'The Biden emails showed a family involved in far from normal influence-trading.'

Ya think?

'For example, Hunter Biden had sat for years on the board of a Ukrainian energy company called Burisma. Why Hunter Biden sat on that board and was so well remunerated for it — around $50,000 a month — was hardly a secret. Hunter has no expertise in the energy sector, nor in anything much else. But proximity to the former vice-president — at the time possibly the next president — brought irresistible cash advantages. (As it did for Joe’s brother, James. He and Hunter signed a deal in 2017 with a Chinese energy conglomerate, CEFC, which paid $4.8 million over 14 months to entities controlled by the two Bidens.)'

He doesn't speak or know the language and never showed up for work. It was a $50k/mo bribe.

'Hunter’s laptop included messages from Burisma executives going back to 2014, asking Hunter for “advice on how you could use your influence to convey a message”. Other emails described how a “provisional agreement” between Hunter and CEFC would include 10 percent of equity held back by Hunter for “the big guy”. Who was “the big guy”? It was possible to guess. Elsewhere in the laptop, in January 2019, Hunter could be found sending an angry text to his daughter Naomi, scolding her for having no idea what demeaning things he said he had had to do to support his family. But, he told her: “Don’t worry, unlike pop, I won’t make you give me half your salary.” People had imagined that Hunter was using Joe. But no, it appeared that Joe was using his son to make money. If ever there were questions to be asked of a candidate here were some….'

They conspired with the FBI to bury the laptop to rig the election.

'Questions would not be asked by Democrat operatives with bylines, and would be squelched by the alliance of tech companies and intelligence/law enforcement agencies that aspires to rule us. We’re lucky that the British press, at least, is raising them.'

 

LOL, this post is adorable.

 

Your post would make a slight bit of sense if A, you can prove that Biden and Democrats prevented the nothingburger news of Hunters laptop from being released and B, if twitter was the ONLY source for news to the American people.

Until then, enjoy your failed premise.

 

Who showered with his daughter. Yikes!

11 - Yes
16 - No