Is Black Lives Matters is a Joke

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See if you think the lady in this video is correct. She sure is courageous!
     
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    Black lives only matter to white upper class liberal millenials. Black people could obviously care less.
     
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    It is just one more hijacked group that started with a legit foundation. It's morphed into a semi hate group, those typically do not get much accomplished long-term .
     
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    They were never legit. It has always been a racist hateful organization built upon lies. It started in the era of St. Trayvon, where self-defense of anyone not black was demonized and grew to much greater hate all in the name of 'social justice' and sleazy appeal to scumbag white guilt monkeys...
     
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    The 911 call said Floyd was, "awfully drunk and he's not in control of himself." The autopsy report showed that George Floyd Had Covid-19, suffered from heart disease, but more importantly, Floyd had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system when he died, as well as cannabis compounds and morphine. The autopsy report determined that Floyd died of cardiopulmonary arrest, not asphyxia.

    Anyone using meth will have severe social and behavioral problems well beyond the point of intoxication. It was used in cocktails with other amphetamines and narcotics in WW2 by the Japanese and Nazis as a war drug in an attempt to create super soldiers: to create sociopathic killing machines. It's behavioral effects are well known, yet people still abuse it.

    From Wikipedia citing DOJ statistics on murder in the US:
    "The offending rate for African Americans was almost eight times higher than Whites, and the victim rate six times higher. ... with 84% of White victims killed by Whites and 93% of African American victims killed by African Americans."

    Covid-19 also kills blacks at higher rates than whites, does that mean the virus is racist? The questions being asked by protesters are only partially right, bad cops are one thing, but they can affect anyone, the real problem is the black community itself, the lack of education and associated poverty and violence puts the black community at higher risk from death both from disease and bad cops. If black lives matter, as the thread title already posited, then why are blacks killing themselves at rates 5 to 8 times that of other ethnicities? It's a bit hypocritical if the BLM movement is not primarily addressing the black community itself.
     
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    It was never legitimate, and it was founded on a lie. Trayvon got exactly what he deserved.
     
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    David Dorn certainly isn't laughing. Neither is his family.
     
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    You're conflating an issue of crime with an issue of politics and oppression.

    You really can't do that, and be, you know, 'logical'.

    They are separate issues, and unless you are black, I would suggest that you walk in the shoes of a black man ( or woman ) before saying such a thing.

    White cops shooting black people disproportionately is a huge political issue. If you can't see that, I can't help you.

    What criminals do is usually a matter of 'following the path of least resistance, which is why you will see criminals commit crimes locally, rather that go over to beverly hills, where surveillance, wealth and power of your victims presents a much bigger problem to you, as a criminal, than robbing someone in your own neighborhood. So, the reason isn't about color here, it's about ease of opportunity. Criminals don't care what your color is, they only care about how easy they can get away with committing a crime.

    So what does crime, in general, what does that have to do with police brutality?
    (it does only in the sense the white cops 'perceive' blacks as more likely to be criminals than whites).

    Other than that tenuous connection, Absolutely nothing. They are completely separate issues so don't conflate them and think you are scoring points, you most certainly are not.

    Unless, of course, you are irrational and are communicating with other irrational persons.
     
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    White cops are not shooting black people disproportionately, where do you get your bullcrap info, Mother Jones?
     
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    You've got actual stats, right?
     
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    The question is, 'but for the policeman putting his knee on the Floyds neck for 9 minutes, would Floyd be alive today?".

    The answer is yes. Perhaps the other stuff was contributory, but cops should know about the neighborhoods they serve, the potential for drug usage, and adjust their conduct accordingly ( some other means of constraint should have been employed). So, all the issues of Floyd's conduct are really irrelevant when you do a 'but for' on it.

    That cop was wrong, and needs to be incarcerated.

    Crime, in general, is a separate issue than police brutality. Crime isn't about race, crime is about ease of opportunity, but police brutality is about race, it's about white oppression of the government vs blacks. are there some black cops guilty of same? I wouldn't doubt it, but it doesn't change the equation, politically speaking.
     
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    Sure:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/i...killings-black-americans-200531105741757.html
    In Utah, the African Americans comprise just 1.06 percent of the population but they accounted for 10 percent of police killings over the past seven years - a disproportional rate of 9.21 times. In Minnesota, Black Americans are nearly four times as likely to be killed by law enforcement, with Black victims comprising 20 percent of those killed, despite comprising only 5 percent of the overall population.

    ETC., check out the article.
     
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    Where is the stat outlining the officers skin color?
     
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    Your name calling aside,

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/i...killings-black-americans-200531105741757.html
    In Utah, the African Americans comprise just 1.06 percent of the population but they accounted for 10 percent of police killings over the past seven years - a disproportional rate of 9.21 times. In Minnesota, Black Americans are nearly four times as likely to be killed by law enforcement, with Black victims comprising 20 percent of those killed, despite comprising only 5 percent of the overall population.

    ETC.
     
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    How many of those cops were white?
     
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    If the cop is not the victim, but the perp, then his or her skin color is irrelevant, only the skin color of the victim is relevant
    But you can rest assured most of the cops, the vast a majority of them are no doubt not black.
     
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    Take a guess. And, it's irrelevant.
     
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    You said this:

    Your link does not back that up.
     
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    Not Of These In Black Culture.
    More needed.





    If YOUR mother caught you same / same
    What Would . . . . .


     
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    I love that clip. I bet he couldn't sit for a month.
     
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    If the denial was anything thicker around here you could swim in it. LOL!

    News flash: America is waking up and YOU LOSE!
     
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    Okay, then scratch 'white' form the sentence.

    Still an issue. But, occam's razor will get you to the fact that no doubt the vast majority of racist cops are not black.
    Just ask any black person about it. I've got a few black friends, it's mostly white cops doing the harrassing, you can put that one in the bank.

    Just sayin'.
     
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    no you can't because the facts don't back up your assertions.
     
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    All those studies that show that black people are shot disproportionately are just looking at one thing...people shot by cops. They do not distinguish between justified vs non-justified. They do not consider the circumstances surrounding the death. They just deal in straight up death numbers. That's it. In other words it is people using statistics to fit a narrative. The same way racists use statistics to fit their narrative in fact. Take into account justified vs non-justified and the circumstances surrounding the death and you will be coming far far closer to reality and the truth.
     
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    Black chick is kind of hot. Hotter than the constipated looking white virtue signaling woman trying to shout her down.
    Oh damn! I guess I’m a waycist now.
     

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