Is Bush Responsible for ISIS(IL)?

Bush ousted a main factor in keeping terrorists at bay. Yes, saddam was a terror himself. But most all leaders in the ME are.
But ISIS(IS) formed under Bush's watch. Because of the vacuum he left behind.

And now they use chemical weapons.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/isis-turns-chemical-weapons-loses-120000404.html

........When Zarqawi was killed in an air raid in Iraq in 2006, his successors Abu Ayoub al-Masri and Abu Omar al-Baghdadi continued the terror organization’s chemical project. The two men established the Islamic State of Iraq in October 2006. In that month, a series of Chlorine bombings began in Iraq. More than a dozen attacks with Chlorine took place between October 2006 and June 2007.........

 

Neither Little Bush or Obama are responsible for ISIS. They are both planted puppets for the war profiteering scumbags that create all of these boogeymen. I have noticed that some of these ISIS/Al CIAda types speak with British accents. They are no doubt funded through channels created by so called "intelligence" agencies like CIA, MI6 and Mossad who are working for the international banking cartels. Their main purpose is to make damn sure that peace doesn't break out and ruin their master's business.

 

Bush is just the name for the cabal that is responsible for ISIS. The cabal was formed pre-Bush and was just waiting around for a non-Jewish face to put before the cameras. You know some of the names that made up the cabal.

 

Do you have some sources to say that Saddam was keeping terrorists at bay?

Because from what I have studied, terrorism was quite active under his regime. al-Qeada was actually hanging out in Northern Iraq and although Saddam was not in league with them (he did not trust them) he certainly was not actively doing anything about them.

 

Bush??? No absolutely not. Obama is responsible since he created the power vacuum in Iraq.

 

Any Muslim who grew up in Enland is going to have a British accents. ISIS has been recruiting from European and even American born Muslims for years, preying on the fact that most of their fellow citizens treat them like garbage.

 

Clinton and Obama are part of the cabal too

 

I think it's the Kochs. Though I do wonder that nobody yet has said it's the KGB. One thing certain is that it's not Muslims

 

We should've let Sadam continue to kill his people and any opposition at will. Giving the SOB money to keep future terrorists at bay. Ignores threats of nuclear weapons too.

 

Do you have some links to credible sources?
This is about ISIS and how they formed right under Bush's watch in the country he tried to take over.

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You still have no clue about the world or anything about it. Did you read the artilce? No? Because it didn't show up in your email box.

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Exactly. Let them sort out their own mess.

 

Of course I have sources and have actually put them in another thread, however you are the one that claimed Saddam was keeping terrorists at bay so it is not my responsibility to source your OP.

You either do that or we will assume your entire OP is a lie.

 

It seems the original link is messed up.

Names
The group has had various names since it was established.[46]

The group was founded in 1999 by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi under the name Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād, "The Organization of Monotheism and Jihad" (JTJ).[19]
In October 2004, al-Zarqawi swore loyalty to Osama bin Laden and changed the group's name to Tanẓīm Qāʻidat al-Jihād fī Bilād al-Rāfidayn, "The Organization of Jihad's Base in Mesopotamia", commonly known as al-Qaeda in Iraq. (AQI).[46][47] Although the group has never called itself al-Qaeda in Iraq, this has been its informal name over the years.[48]
In January 2006, AQI merged with several other Iraqi insurgent groups to form the Mujahideen Shura Council.[49] Al-Zarqawi was killed in June 2006.
On 12 October 2006, the Mujahideen Shura Council merged with several more insurgent factions, and on 13 October the establishment of the Dawlat al-ʻIraq al-Islāmīyah, Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) was announced.[50] The leaders of this group were Abu Abdullah al-Rashid al-Baghdadi and Abu Ayyub al-Masri.[51] After they were killed in a US–Iraqi operation in April 2010, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi became the new leader of the group.
On 8 April 2013, having expanded into Syria, the group adopted the name Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, which more fully translates as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant or Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.[52][53][54] These names are translations of the Arabic name al-Dawlah al-Islāmīyah fī al-ʻIrāq wa-al-Shām,[55][56] al-Shām being a description of the Levant or Greater Syria.[26] The translated names are commonly abbreviated as ISIL or ISIS, with a debate over which of these acronyms should be used.[56][26] The Washington Post concluded that the distinction between the two "is not so great".[26]
The name Daʿish is often used by ISIL's Arabic-speaking detractors. It is based on the Arabic letters dāl, alif, ʻayn, and shīn, which form the acronym (داع&#1588 of ISIL's Arabic name al-Dawlah al-Islamīyah fī al-ʻIrāq wa-al-Shām.[57][58] There are many spellings of this acronym with DAESH gaining acceptance. ISIL considers the name Da'ish derogatory for it sounds similar to the Arabic words Daes, "one who crushes something underfoot", and Dahes, "one who sows discord".[59][60] ISIL also reportedly uses flogging as a punishment for those who use the name in ISIL-controlled areas.[61][62]
On 14 May 2014, the United States Department of State announced its decision to use "Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant" (ISIL) as the group's primary name.[57] However, in late 2014 top US officials shifted toward DAESH citing it was the preferred term used by Arab partners.[59]
On 29 June 2014, the group renamed itself the Islamic State (IS) and declared itself to be a worldwide "caliphate".[38][63][64] "Accordingly, the 'Iraq and Shām' in the name of the Islamic State is henceforth removed from all official deliberations and communications, and the official name is the Islam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant

 

Anyone in Bush's administration who actively supported the Iraqi invasion is responsible -- it's stupid to rest the blame on one person. Obama did the right thing by pulling out.

 

Clinton was. Obama had done a good job pissing off that cartel.

 

It's not the Kochs or the KGB. It's Perle, Wolfowitz, Kristol, Abrams, Sharon, Netanyahu, et al.

 

When Obama hired Tim Geithner, a former Goldman Sachs lackey as Secretary of Treasury before he even took office I knew right then that he was just another planted agent of the GHW Bush cabal. He will no doubt be vacationing in Kennebunkport with the Clinton's and the Bush's when he's through playing his role as President. Next we will probably be treated to another Bush vs Clinton rigged election. Mark my words.

 

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I say No. No one in the US is responsible for ISIS or their actions, ISIS and it's acts or horror and cruelty are directly the responsibility of those that set up the group and runs it daily activities and of-course it is the responsibility of those that carry out those acts, when it comes to ISIS fighters not one should be taken prisoner, simply execute them on sight. I would also add that every ISIS fighter that comes from another country should be automatically arrested when they return to their home country and tried with Treason and crimes against humanity then, without any publicity, taken out and executed.

 

Iraq seemed fine... until Obama prematurely pulled troops out.

Bush even warned him what would happen....and it did.

 

So Bush decided on a plan and timetable for withdrawal, knowing full well that it was a bad idea?

One or the other doesn't make sense. Either Bush knew that a withdrawal was a bad idea, and he was an idiot for making the decision to withdraw, or he didn't think it was a bad idea, and you can't hold it against Obama that he failed to violate the treaty signed by Bush.

 

What seems true and actual truth are not the same.
Of course you knew obama only followed what bush put in place.

 

The Democrats did all they could to delay or cut funding in Iraq. The Congressional Democrats are just as responsible for ISIL if your contention Bush is.

 

Bush signed the agreement that required the US to withdraw operational troops from Iraq unless we got further agreement from Maliki - which Maliki had no intent to give us.

Just as importantly, the civil war against the Sunnis was taking place during the Bush administration. Maliki was driving Sunnis out of the Iraqi government, was attacking Sunnis with his military and was arming militias to attack Sunnis as well. That is what produced an opening for ISIL in the first place, and Bush had no answer for that.

Al Masri declared his Islamic State in 2006 after having taken over for al Zarqawi, who had been killed by the US.

I have NO idea how you could think that "Iraq seemed fine". And, you are implying that ISIL came about after Bush had left - which is just plain false.

 

And in Libya where they (ISL) currently control much of the nation.
Don't forget Obama tried to destabilize Syria as well until Putin stepped in.

If you want to be absolutely correct the group that morphed into ISL formed in 1999 so blame Bill Clinton while you are at it.