Is Christianity something other than a religion?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by pjohns, Sep 19, 2017.

  1. KAMALAYKA

    KAMALAYKA Banned

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    Let's be honest. You're twisting secular scholarship to defend religious beliefs. I refuse to play your game.
     
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    Jesus doesn't talk about "eternal bliss." Again, what point are you actually trying to make?

    Paul doesn't talk about "eternal bliss" either. AGAIN, what point are you actually trying to make?

    So bad people cannot become a Christian?
     
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    Where did you get faith and faith alone? You must be aware being saved means eternal bliss, some call it heaven. Being saved.

    You admitted Paul/Saul the persecutor wrote Ephesians. So he did say something about being saved, eternal bliss.

    What did Jesus say how one needs to do to be saved? The one who will actually have some say in the saved or not saved.

    Paul/Saul has no voice in that. Not even sure what authority he has in making any sort of statement to who is or is not saved and how they are saved.
     
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    I think I know what you mean now. You're wondering why I quoted what Paul said instead of Jesus who is the ultimate authority? And you're wondering if I can quote Jesus to support my statement that faith and faith alone gets someone into heaven?

    I'm just saying that the face that Paul was a persecutor of Christians in his former life is completely and utterly irrelevant!
     

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