Colin Kaepernick Sentenced to NFL Limbo for the Crime of Speaking His Mind

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  1. Grokmaster

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    His apology was a lot more heartfelt than Kaepernick's, and his crime offended animal lovers, not members and lovers of the US Military. HUGE dif'...
     
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    Oh I see, so as long as Kaep starts killing dogs then he'll be an "acceptable" athlete, right? Felonies don't seem to stop people from being signed on to a team.

    I've already said Michael Vick several times, but I question whether people are truthful when they say they're for 2nd chances, or is it just 2nd chances for certain people. Just look at Johnny Manziel, the Saints are looking at him despite his record of being a drug addict, habitutal partier, liar and supposed girlfriend beater.
     
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    I would be surprised if he didn't see some action this year.

    QBs get hurt all the time.

    Somebody will take a chance on him.
     
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    Bookies in Vegas don't seem to agree with you.
     
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    Here's more:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/colin-kaepernick-is-a-victim-of-his-own-supporters-1495148971
    Colin Kaepernick Is a Victim of His Own Supporters
    What team owner would risk being vilified as racist if things don’t go well for the quarterback?

    Colin Kaepernick formerly of the San Francisco 49ers on Jan. 1. PHOTO: GETTY IMAGES
    By Jason Whitlock
    May 18, 2017 7:09 p.m. ET

    Quarterback Colin Kaepernick became a hero to progressive activists—and a polarizing figure among National Football League fans—when he began kneeling during the national anthem last season. His protest of police misconduct won him plaudits from the sports media, but he has been jobless since parting ways with the San Francisco 49ers earlier this year. Progressives believe Mr. Kaepernick is a victim, and I agree. The question is who made him one.

    The sports press wants you to believe Mr. Kaepernick, who recently received interest from the Seattle Seahawks, remains unemployed thanks to the racist collusion of 32 conservative billionaire team owners. ESPN commentator Bomani Jones demands the media “stop hiding behind code” and address this “visible potential case of discrimination.” The normally measured Tim Kawakami wrote in a rambling column that a lesser quarterback already signing with an NFL team proved Mr. Kaepernick was being blackballed.

    In reality, the 29-year-old has struggled to find work because his supporters inflated the risk of signing him, and his skills don’t compensate for the uncertainty he brings. An owner, general manager or coach runs the risk of being publicly vilified as racist depending on how his team uses the mixed-race quarterback.

    The same risk does not exist if an NFL decision maker mishandles rookies like Mitchell Trubisky and Deshaun Watson, or veterans such as Blaine Gabbert and Geno Smith. A coach knows he can bench or cut any NFL quarterback, except Mr. Kaepernick, without having his personal integrity questioned. This explains why former Kaepernick backup Mr. Gabbert has already signed a one-year contract with the Arizona Cardinals. Critics of the Gabbert acquisition can question Arizona head coach Bruce Arians’s football acumen without politics becoming an issue. Mr. Gabbert is in that way an ideal backup: somewhere between invisible and boring.

    Former quarterback Tim Tebow’s rabid, irrational supporters undermined his NFL opportunities in much the same fashion as Mr. Kaepernick’s. In 2011 he started 11 games for the Denver Broncos and led them to a come-from-behind playoff victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers. In celebration of big plays and touchdowns, Mr. Tebow knelt in prayer and became a polarizing religious symbol. He was also a below-average passer. The Broncos, and several other teams, discarded the fervent Christian when it became clear his production didn’t justify the controversy associated with his presence.

    Mr. Kaepernick’s kneeling is an even riskier proposition. The social-justice warrior has cultivated media alliances far more aggressively than the pious Mr. Tebow. Mr. Kaepernick is also closely aligned with Black Lives Matter media activists. No NFL owner, executive or coach—regardless of race—wants his football decisions second-guessed in the tendentious way BLM activists Monday-morning-quarterback police officers.

    Above all, talent drives NFL decisions. The proof can be seen in the Cincinnati Bengals’ choice of 20-year-old running back Joe Mixon in the second round of last month’s draft. Mr. Mixon enters the league after the release of year-old video showing the young African-American breaking a white woman’s jaw. Mr. Mixon reached an out-of-court settlement with the victim and apologized publicly.

    In the NFL meritocracy, Mr. Mixon’s talent dictates that he be given an opportunity to redeem himself as a man while playing professional football. In the minds of Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis and owner Mike Brown, Mr. Mixon’s talents justify dealing with the controversy and baggage that accompany his employment. These same factors allowed former NFL star quarterback Michael Vick, who is also black, to land a job with the Philadelphia Eagles after spending time in prison for running a dogfighting operation.


    The old white bigots running the NFL apparently control one of the few industries that grants black ex-cons a path to re-enter the workforce and excel economically. Given the felony-conviction rate, poverty and fatherlessness associated with young black men, you would think progressives would celebrate the league’s owners. Their patriotic league lives out the principles the U.S. ought to represent.

    But for some reason progressive elites prefer the Hollywood version of America, where old liberal white men decide who gets a role on the team. It’s odd, though. The old white conservatives operate a sports league that enriches and champions African-Americans. The old white liberals control an industry that rightly is criticized for its neglect and tokenization of minority actors.

    Mr. Whitlock is a co-host of “Speak for Yourself” on Fox Sports 1.

    Appeared in the May. 19, 2017, print edition.
     
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    Very few military that I know, including myself, were offended by his actions. I just think his views are paper thin.
     
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    The sports writers I read last season were saying Colon is inconsistent and mediocre at QB. On top of that he pisses off loads of fans and creates a bunch of controversy. What NFL team would want a drama queen like that? Screw him.

    He has every right to protest anything he wants, but the fans go to the park to watch great football, not some AH with an attitude. Protest at home, AH.
     
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    alright here's some racist honesty.

    Black QBs go far in high school and then college because they can run. They fail in the NFL because they can't go through a progression and read a defense.

    They do very well at first until defensive coaches get enough tape on them and figure them out, then they are done.

    Keapernick is no different, except he's also a distraction.
     
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    Some people respect the flag and love this country. And, a lot of Americans love this country enough to fight for it — and, if necessary, to die for it. Those patriotic Americans made it possible for this freaking waste of skin to live in a free country, have a football career, make a ton of money, then to protest like a freaking drama queen and then, to whine and cry and tell everyone how freaking oppressed his sorry ass is.

    If some AH is going to offend paying fans by protesting BS (while he's on the job) his employers can't be blamed for shipping his sorry ass out. He doesn't own the franchise, he's an employee, he should act like one; not be a freaking drama queen. When you're in business, you do everything you can to please your customers. If you have an employee who's not willing to do that, you get rid of that employee. Simple as that.
     
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    Other countries have their own traditions.

    Some people will never be patriotic or care about America, some will never assimilate, some will forever whine and moan and complain. But they don't have the cajones to up and leave. They're only capable of being worthless whiners.
     
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    The national anthem absolutely has a "place" there. There's a large gathering of Americans, most are patriotic. It's a way to show solidarity and love and respect for our country. People who only want to whine should think hard about why they want to remain here; they might be happier in other places and they wouldn't have to whine and moan so much.
     
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    Have Cam Newton or Russell Wilson read this?
     
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    So Colin's inconsistent and mediocre at QB but Mike Glennon, a guy with a $45 million deal who's never won anything relevant in his career, isn't? Oh okay then. As far as controversy goes, where's all that controversy when players with felonies on their records are signed?
     
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    He's a shitty quarterback no matter what his stance on politicks, honestly.
     
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    He was the coach there before New England. They sucked then too.
     
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    Colon made himself a liability. No one made him act like a fool and detract from what paying fans came to see: great football played at a professional level. Who wants to deal with the distraction of a whiner on the sidelines when you've paid to see the game. Let the AH go home and whine or protest or service himself, if that's what he wants to do. But....doing those things "on the job" is not smart. He pissed off a lot of fans, and showed himself to be a failure as an employee. And that's all he is, an employee.

    I'm a Broncos fan. I follow sports during football season to find out what's happening with the Broncos. The controversy over Colon's stupidity was just taking valuable time away from the sport. I could care less about Colon, OR his concerns. Let him go riot with the other BLM losers, if that's what he wants to do, but he has no right to waste everyone else's time or money.

    But when he drew attention to himself, fans posting to forums, and sports writers, began, rightly, to examine his talent. And most of them found it far less than stellar. He was on the bench for a reason. And no team wants to pay some schmuck millions of dollars to live on the bench. So, from everything I read and heard, Colon was not carrying his own weight. He can whine and moan, and I'm sure he is highly talented in that area, but he was a liability.

    He has to take personal responsibility for his own actions. If he even knows what that means.
     
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    If he was worth it to a team, he'd be on it
     
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    Exactly. Well said.
     
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    So many below average QBs with far less success in the NFL were apparently worth it, so I doubt that's the case.
     
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    So many other players with far worse baggage and bigger whiners seem to make it past all of those. I've already said how Michael Vick, a guy who killed dogs in dogfighting games and was in jail, was somehow given a second chance and made the most of it. Greg Hardy, a guy who physically assaulted his girlfriend almost to the point of killing her, somehow got signed by the Cowboys and also managed to get a reduction in his suspended games, made worse by how this incident happened AFTER the Ray Rice incident. Seems like distractions don't apply if you're a felon, given how many fans were supposedly pissed at Kaepernick but willingly looked the other way when it came to animal and domestic abusers.

    Didn't stop people from watching the games regardless of this, though.

    And yet many teams have paid below average players millions to sit on benches or get some playing time to prove they're better than their past failures, only to look mediocre to just plain awful on gameday and prove why they got cut from their previous team in the first place.

    Kaep was on the bench for a reason, albeit not a good one and with Blaine Gabbert in his place. If people though Kaep wasn't a good QB what made you think Gabbert would be any better? He's on his 3rd team in his career and his play is complete crap.
     
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    Prove he IS.
     
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    So what if he is?

    He's a horrible employee and bad for the company / business.

    I hope he save his money.
     
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    From what I understand Michael Vick was a strong player. I've never heard anyone describe Colon that way.

    And, loads of people did stop watching Colon's team (including me), judging from posts to sports forums and calls to radio sports shows. He is a miserable whiner and a liability to any team. He thinks he and his beliefs, are more important than the team or the fans. Screw him. Just read the posts to this thread, lots of people hate this entitled clown. Why would any team want him?

    Look at the positive side: Colon is now free to protest full-time. And sports fans no longer have to be distracted by his stupid, sorry ass.
     
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    Anyone who watched him under Jim Harbaugh would think differently.

    I thought people stopped watching the 49ers because they sucked overall, they were 2-14 for the season if I recall. The posts on this thread give me the impression that some people don't take other players or situations into context when discussing his unemployment or even look the other way in what they consider a "liability," despite the aforementioned examples of other players who have tons more baggage and issues, and in fact should be sitting in a super max prison.
     
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    I don't think Colon's case should be compared to any other players. He tried, purposely, to make himself the point of attention in every game. That is NOT what he was paid to do. He has to understand that he is an employee. If he wants to protest "anything" he should do it on his own time and not in someone else's stadium. He made himself a hated distraction (for many fans) and therefore, a huge liability. He owns that. And he has to, one day, learn that there are consequences for one's actions. Maybe he has never had to take personal responsibility for his actions before. It's time he does.

    It's true that the 49ers sucked. But every team goes through bad years. Sometimes decades of them. But the most loyal fans still pay for their ticket and show up to support their home team. But, when a clown like Colon makes every game a stage for his own stupid protests, and especially when he demeans the nation and it's anthem, it really pisses some people off. If he really hates the nation so much, he should use some of the millions of dollars he has made (in this nation), grow a pair, and put his money where his big mouth is: LEAVE. Go somewhere he thinks is better. Where there are no nasty white people to "oppress" his rich ass. He has no right to interfere with other people who have paid to enjoy the game. His personal political views are his own, in that sense he doesn't matter, and they were right to get rid of him.
     

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