Is Confederate flag a symbol of hate?

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Is the Confederate flag a symbol of hate?

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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  3. Its complicated.

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  1. Tejas

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    You're saying "White Supremacist ideology still exists and lives in USA"... but not in Putin's Russia ??

    Putin's Russia does glorify evil antichrist marxist bolshevik Stalin.

    So why do modern Russian artists perform "music of Counter-Revolutionaries of Russian Civil War" ??

    Ironically, those counter-revolutionaries were called "White Russians"

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    1) The pro-pogrom ideology of White Guards no longer exists in Russia.

    2) Joseph Stalin had great flaws and great virtues. Thank G-d, USSR under Stalin saved Humankind from Nazis.

    3) This is part of anti-Communist rather then anti-Semitic art. No one supports Pogroms.
     
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    I figured it was too good to be true when many oligarchs moved out of Putin's Russia.

    Are they now dual citizens who can come and go at will ??

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    The bolded is not synonymous with the Confederate flag. If you were born in the Southern USA you might understand this. No one will shame me into being ashamed of my heritage.
     
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    They would be very confused (and run to google) if you post the Bonnie Blue flag.
     
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    No just an archaic symbol of racist regime.
     
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    A symbol of hate? Yes, but only to those on the left who are just looking for the latest reason for their feeling to be hurt.
     
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    Eh, I mean, those who read primary sources from the time period are going to have to come to the conclusion that the Confederate states primarily left the USA over slavery and formed a new nation to protect slavery. Of course, historical revisionists who want to be snowflakey about it have tried painting a prettier picture in order to keep their feelings from being hurt.
     
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    Many on the liberal Left forget that slavery was not (NOT) an American invention. Moreover, slavery was practiced and quite legal in even such 'civilized' nations as Great Britain and France until well into the 19th-century!

    The welcome abolition of slavery in the U. S. differed from that in both Britain and France in that the ruling power-factions in London and Paris refrained from inflicting a punitive, civil war on parts of their empires where slavery had been practiced for hundreds of years. The ruling Northern power-faction in the United States took a different tack, finally resulting in more than 618,000 deaths here....
     
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    How can you not love Joan Jett & the BLACK Heart 's?
     
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    Notice you use "they" not "we". Again proving you don't understand for whom the memorials are erected and why as a true Southerner would know. And you have refuted none of the facts I have posted.
     
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    Not for Southerners and it was the Stars and Stripes which flew over slavery for almost 100 years before, during and after the Civil War. It was the Stars and Stripes the KKK carried in their marches.
     
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    Whether it is or is not, it is part of our history and part of our heritage. I don't see the value of discarding it like it is nothing.
     
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    Ha ha, fun factoid for the shock and awe of the Libs here....the state flag of Virginia was adopted after secession in 1861, and with a few symbolic additions remains virtually the same today. Oh the horror! :D
     
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    The Confederate flag was never a symbol of hate. But today some misuse it this way. :(

     
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    Please listen to Christopher at 2:30
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  18. Tejas

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    And for Southerners... love of our forefathers who fought for our freedom, land and heritage... and our families who suffered invasion, defeat and draconian Yankee military occupation and military rule.

    One of the stories carried down in my family was from my g-grandmother when she was a small child on the family farm in the Ozarks of Arkansas. Yankees had already conquered and occupied that area. One day my young g-grandmother was outside playing when a group of Yankee soldiers riding by stopped and asked her: "Where's your daddy"? She told them: "He's in his skin". They responded, "No he isn't, we just shot and killed him up the road." Then she ran into the farmhouse crying for her mother [my gg-grandmother] who told her: "The Yankees are lying... your daddy is fine. He's far away fighting the Yankees." And indeed he was... my Confederate gg-grandfather was in Texas fighting against the Yankees. When the war was over, my gg-grandfather managed to avoid the occupying Yankee troops as he made his way back to his Ozark farm.

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    Neither. It is the battle flag of an army. I don't believe flags are even capable of hate or causing hate.
     
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    It's as if some want to create empty holes in the history of those states which at one time were all part of another country. The flags of 7 countries have flown over where I live the Confederate States of America being one of them.
     
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    That is a good question......
    in my opinion people are too easily offended now in 2021 because the "Dukes of Hazard" was kind of funny......
    ...... and we do not need to be so easily triggered.......
    There are people who want us divided over relatively insignificant things such as whether or not somebody wears a mask or not.... (and the masks may only give something like a two or three percent advantage over not wearing masks)?????

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    The flag represents what ever you want it to represent. Some see the flag as a symbol of hate, slavery, racism, and segregation. Others view it as rebellion, and states’s right. Some people see it as just a battle flag.
     
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    It has become the symbol of white supremacy and it is no longer just a nostalgic symbol of the south. Times have changed old people.
     
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    The Confederate flag



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    Who decides what symbols mean?
     

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