Is Confederate flag a symbol of hate?

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Is the Confederate flag a symbol of hate?

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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  3. Its complicated.

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Everyone, and the Confederate flag shows up a lot among white nationalists and the like.
     
  2. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Der zeitgeist.
     
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    And it shows up a lot at other places. That is why we are having this discussion. It is a symbol with no fixed meaning, in contradiction to what you said.
     
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    The spirit of the age has not made a determination.

    I think you progressives just like to boss people around and are in fact very illiberal.
     
  5. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Yes it has, but conservatives generally lag because of an inflexible mindset and less empathy for others outside their circle making them illiberal.
    Conservatives generally whine and moan about any social change like women's rights, gay marriage, equal rights for the races etc. and eventually come around to saying it was the right thing to do, even some dishonestly taking credit for it.
     
  6. Pycckia

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    ada ada ada, we sre talking about symbols and how progressives declare the meaning of symbols. Now people get fired for making the OK sign. Whatever the fault of conservtives the Progressive have a mean totalitarian streak.
     
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    The Confederacy declared the meaning of their symbols, not progressives.
     
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    No we were talking about the opinion of the general population and even the majority of southerners think the flag is a racist symbol.

    Are you seriously trying to blame progressives for white supremacists hijacking the okay gesture like they did the stars and bars?
     
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    The KKK flew the Stars and Stripes PROMENANTLY

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    ...............................was it banned? And they number in the tens of thousands as opposed to the few and rare white supremist.
     
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    It is the progressives that give these few and far between albatrosses any respect and acknowledgement when ever the car full of them arrive for a "rally".

    Why should they be given the power to determine our symbols?

    The Confederate Battle Flag to Southerner's represents the courage and sacrifice those who defended their states against an invading army hellbent on it's total destruction protecting their families, their homes, their churches, their businesses, their farms, everything many giving the ultimate sacrifice.
     
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    The United States was not founded with slavery as its cornerstone. The Confederacy was.
     
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    Slavery existed under that flag from it's inception for almost 100 years before during and after the Civil War and was proudly carried by the KKK as it's symbol so why hasn't it been banned?
     
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    I've already answered your question. See previous post. Slavery was their purpose for seceding, it was their purpose for creating a new nation, it was their cornerstone, The same is not true for the United States.
     
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    You are aware that the American flag represents everyone...racists, fascists, white, black, brown, socialists, progressives...you get the idea, but the stars and bars? Not so much. The radical right-wing have wrapped themselves in it and essentially hijacked it for their own purposes. The swastika at one time was a religious symbol. Not any more. Things change, meanings change and conservatives aren't good at change, but you need to get over it.
     
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    I have said no different what's your point. The KKK hijacked and used it at their HUGE rallies so why hasn't it been banned if that is the reason to ban the Confederate Battle Flag? What's the "radical right wing"? Why do they get to define the purpose? Screw them. Why do you invest so much authority in power to an extremely small group of racist radicals which is all they are. They certainly do not represent Republican's or conservatives. YOU'RE the one promoting them as some important group, why?
     
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    No you haven't and Southerners flying the Confederate Flag has nothing to do with slavery. That flag had nothing to do with slavery. Honoring those who fell in that war is not honoring slavery. I have already explained the purpose. See previous post.
     
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    And BTW slavery was a key part of the rebellion against Britain and what brought in the Southern colonies.
     
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    Everybody has a mean totalitarian streak, conservatives as much as anyone and more than lots. Progressives tend to get involved with really silly **** occasionally but it's conservatives you find beating people up over sexuality issues
     
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    Leon Trotsky and original American Liberals of 1970s were not Totalitarian.
     
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    Confederates fought the Civil War in order to preserve Slavery.
     
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    I am definitely not an American Patriot.

    We all suffered from British loss -- Canada and Australia have much better Society then USA.
     
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    Any disabled person of any race can thank George Washington for USA not having Welfare system like Canada, Australia, NZ.

    Proud to be Autistic!
     
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    I didn't say everybody was entirely. What are you meaning by totalitarian anyway?
     
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    The flag supporters have always had the mean streak, it's the symbol of traitors to the USA for the right to keep owning black people.
    Today, the flag is the symbol for white supremacy. Talk about some mean streak.
     

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