IS COOLING THE DESERTS the best way to prevent ocean level rise?

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Is desalination of ocean water a better way to reduce Global Warming than reducing CO2 emissions?

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    One of the journals that publishes papers that pass review is Nature.com.

    Their site includes abstracts and reviews of findings for free. If you want to see the original paper, one would need to subscribe or pay for an article.

    Nature lives by having a strong and trustable review record. If it fails in that, there would be no customers.
     
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    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    Not all deserts are near the equator.
     
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    I think that you are right. We want the deserts to be very reflective (albedo approaching 1). If they are dark, the earth absorbs more heat.
     
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    But I live in Nova Scotia so I am even more worried about rising ocean levels......
    and the world's deserts is one of the only logical places to put desalinated water
    from out of the oceans so that the ocean level can be kept stable.

    Where we live affects how we view the full subject of climate change.

    The Greenland 2019 melt and forcing M. P. Andrew Scheer and M. P. Bernier to cooperate?


    "If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide...
    ... rise by one meter in the Isthmus of Chignecto in Nova Scotia, Canada?


    This question is logical because the geography of Canada's Bay of Fundy produces the world's highest tides. In my part of Nova Scotia in Guysborough County there is very little funnelling of tidal waters......... so high tide is only about one to one point five meters above low tide.

    In the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy high tide levels are up by ten to fifteen meters."

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    I have high hopes of a huge amount of H2O being desalinated at the coast in California but piped to Los Vegas!
     
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    None are. All are around the same parallel due to Hadley cells.
     
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    Not all deserts cool off at night.. Consider the desert in Saudi Arabia and the Sahara.
     
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    What sort of power are you going to use to desalinate water?
     
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    Day to night temps in the Sahara can differ as much as 50 F.
     
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    Look up Hadley cells.
     
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    Look up greening deserts.
     
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    There are very good free resources available...often far better.

    https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,18&q=desert+greening&btnG=

    Google Scholar is one of them:
    https://scholar.google.com/

    Many actual papers get placed here.
     
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    The Saudi desert doesn't cool off at night. It may be 95-100 degrees F at midnight.
     
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    LOL, in Winter it can go below freezing. Night and day temp swings are great due to lack of moisture. Compare that to equatorial regions the on have a 14 F swing.
     
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    Which one?
     
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    In keeping with that you have to ask why the Sahara became dry, I am told it had something to with the monsoons. If you make the Sahara green what will this do to the monsoons,which millions depend upon for food?.
     
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    Hadley cells are the cause.
     
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    Then why was the Sahara green up until about 10,000 years ago. Hadley cells have been on the Earth forever haven't they?
     
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    Hadley cell is a global phenomenon not localized, though it obviously has local effects. In the case of deserts the terrain and trade winds would likely have more impacts.
     
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    LOL, you mean right after the glacial period? Hadley cells cause the deserts as we see them today.
     
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    You're dodging the question. Why did the Sahara dry up? What changed?
     
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    Even Saudi Arabia was a well watered savanna 10-13,000 years ago with shallow lakes and wadis... until the glaciers began retreating.
     
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    I had never herd of them before...

    Hadley cells (plural noun)
    1. a large-scale atmospheric convection cell in which air rises at the equator and sinks at medium latitudes, typically about 30° north or south.
     
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