Is France being lost to Muslims? Is all of Western Europe following?

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  1. KGB agent

    KGB agent Well-Known Member

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    It may be a problem if immigrants' children wouldn't feel themself like frenchmen, but would feel like muslims firstly. Then France have my condolences for becoming a colony of it's own former colonies. Otherwise there is nothing to worry about.

    But it's strange, that Sarcozy is putting his nose into "Human Rights in Russia" "problem" and at the same time continue to pushing out roma out of France. (*)(*)(*)(*) little nazi .
     
  2. Viv

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    He says he's dealing with the immigration problem in France generally, not just as it relates to the Roma.

    What is he saying about Russia?
     
  3. LU6FER

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    Two points :

    One /
    If you are sincerly believing and editing your opinion on the ground of this text, then , before taking account of it , you have to check who did write this text and then what for ?.
    I remind you that : MEMRI is one among many very powerfull zionist propaganda headquarters under ADL management .
    It's great goal to day , is demonizing any moslim hint in good folk's mind .

    On the same day : France is sending air forces << to help finding french agents who are supposed hidjacked by some saharaoui moslem al quaida terrorists >>
    That's what is printed in our papers on sept 20!
    We , proud people of french Sarkoland , are going to rescue hostages by bombing and straffing sahara civilians !
    That's what is writen ! We killed 12 <<al Quaida terrorists>> near Raz El MA ( Mali) . But didn't succeed in any hostage location or liberation!
    Question : France has no soldiers on the ground . Only planes & satellits to spot& kill the hidjackers.!!
    How can we name " al quaida moslem terrorists" civilians peoples killed from airplanes ?

    Those massacres are done on poor nomad populations . No free reporter at all could tell the truth ! Or - american way - if any spanky reporter succeed in some films about the bloody results of to day's french civil racial hate program, he will at once become the main target of those bold french sand soldiers . Same as we hav seen with US GI running for kill after Juliana Sgrena and Italian consul in Bagdad (who did'nt survive) .

    To day , french armed airplanes are flying over Mali , Niger and Mauritania , without any real welcome from these country authorities.
    France is taking usual advice from Israel ( Giddon Ezra is friend of SArkozy ) for how to correct French folks and drive them walking on the lane Israel whishes; but to day is showing a serious step up in imitating israel ways of action over others sovereign land.
    We fly over and kill in foreign countries , without any consciousness of other nations will and rights !

    We just need to write << Al Quaida terrorist>> to name any civilian population we like to destroy ( for racial or economical private reasons ) , and if we have any flying killing device , we go and kill without any consciousness trouble .
    That's french President's way .
    We , French people , as well as American folks for Iraqui crimes , will have to pay the toll when History will settle the truth concerning these dastardly civilians slaughters .
    Because no one ever free any hostage bombing a population .
    World Peoples now know USA is the responsible of Cambodian genocide ,it's written in mankind story , same as nazi deeds ! and one day , the world will look at any American or French guy as plague or lepers ( like SS were ) .
    Difficult to deny we deserve it .
    Sahara peoples deserve respect for the way they are living in a very unforgiving land . Their milenary way of survival should forbid these criminal acts that can turn easily into blind genocide .


    Sorry for my poor english writing but the subject is serious .


    Second/ If you are belonging to the staff of these racial hate campaign squads to promote religious war ... then I have nothing to say you don't already know all about it .
     
  4. Red

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    Did you understand me to be arguing that whilst there is indeed a master-race of supermen who invented everything, it's actually the Germans, not the Americans (witness the telephones on the Hamburg-Berlin railway) and that, therefore, we should go find a German to tell us all what level of freedom of religion French Christians ought to permit to French Muslims?

    If so, then I have failed to explain myself.
     
  5. SpankyTheWhale

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    Kinda sorta.
     
  6. mleonnig

    mleonnig New Member

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    Suggesting that the railway phones had anything to do with the invention of the cell phone is a ludicrous idea, just another example of Europeans,' desperate attempts to take credit for our inventions.
     
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    Sarkozy may be France's last chance.
     
  8. LU6FER

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    <<....as evidenced by this video and riots in which Muslim youth burn police cars while French authorities stand by and did nothing, France is adapting to Islam.>>


    " evidence prooving Earth is flat lies every where "





    I can assure you that these car havn't been lighted by moslims !
    During oct 2005 so called "urban riots ", Sarkozy , CRIF movement ( Jewish party made by Rothschild fond&#233; de pouvoir :Roger Cukierman ) and yongsters from Paris Yeshiva were riding the suburbs in 4WD cars , very quicly lighting bunches of cars . Police was seriously instructed not to see anything .
    Herault ( French deptmt ) Pr&#233;fet , started a trial for he & his policemen had been direct witness of other policemen together with masked civilians lighting cars to burn entire parking rows of vehicles .( snapshot were taken )
    News reporters were on the spot ,ready to film , BEFORE the first car was lit !!
    The law suit the Prefet launched was aborted from top of Minist&#232;re de la justice , and he was dismissed. (let's ask why , when police officers & a Prefet were testifying what they had been watching !! Lets' ask under what kind of legal power was it occuring..)
    But lots of common cityzen had been witness as well of the same facts from their windows.
    Main news network were clearly complicit and warned , because no single word about those queer <<Al Quaida , terrorists Moslems >> were never printed in any of our all-jewish papers & TV news promptor . Many posts by local guys were testifying these strange squads in so queer actions .
    As we can watch to day , the media choral was " terrorist rule over our city " ! A so emphasized way that , as feeling to day , wise peoples were fearing some forged terrorist attempt .

    So , I let it to your own wisdom to decide which is what about the great racist pageant where Sarkozy is playing the prima dona role.

    A kinda modern media fashion of the hudge Nurenberg nazi racial hate office .
    But this time Jews are ont top level of official tribune and at crowd-howling promptor keyboard !.


    Dismal recall/
    1) Al Quaida doesn't exist yet. Several splited resistance movement have risen to resist USA barbarians mug anywhere they violate peoples rights.
    2) Fals flag attack are the only ones which occured in latest years in western Europ.
    Mossad op&#233;ration conceptors are very symbolistic minded.(remind their motto , and the value of datas in " kabbale")
    Did you realise spanish Atocha attack was performed exactly 911 days after 911 Manhattant air show , and nature of sprengstoff was analysed high military explosive no civilian terrorist could afford ?

    For the latest clue , : it's possible to check it on this forum as well as on any other.(most of it on french speaking forums)
    The sudden rising of those topics concerning " new reasons to hate Arab , Moslims and Gypsies " massively lauched by the same type of "partners" we usually find enhancing war on Iran or extolling israeli's peace angels.

    Being a little trained to track those ways of action , it's easy to read what's cooking : peoples'mind preparation to some military slaughter show or any bloody kind of phosphorus barbecue party.
    I only hope they won't commit any other false flag street kill or Manhattan fashion big show !
    When Atocha murder occured , we were waiting it in France for two month , so much the "terrorist attack" poor scenary around London had induced most of peoples to laugh .
     
  9. Viv

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    He is certainly not averse to standing up or speaking out and being high profile. Time will tell if he is actually just dealing with immigration issues or if he is a big fat racist.

    The news yesterday carried an article which said France will come under terrorist attack imminently because of his ban on the burqa. How long do you think the people will stand behind him if that happens?

    After the Spanish train bomb, people voted to remove the Government. Do you think the French will be different?
     
  10. mleonnig

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    If Muslims use terrorism to oppose France's right to govern itself and issue its own laws, then I believe (or I at least hope) that the French people will stand behind him even more!

    Asking the government to change or bend to the will of terrorists as a result of a terrorist attack is simply giving in to terrorism.

    I hope the people of France have more constitution that the Spaniards, who have clearly allowed themselves to be intimidated and defeated by terrorism.

    Spain has already capitulated to the Moors... will France?
     
  11. Whoosh

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    It is time for a reality check. Only six percent of the French are Muslims.

    I know that there are a sizeable group of people on the western side of the pond who have a collective wet dream about Muslims taking over France but try to be a bit realistic.
     
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    I'm sure that, when there is no illegal reaction to the burqa ban (other than the inevitable upsurge in the wearing of burqas) Sarkozy will invent a further provocation, and then another, and then another. Don't worry - if he's permitted, he will pass laws enforcing the public consumption of blood-sausage and pastis. He'll do whatever it takes to get a Muslim to commit an act of political violence in France.

    Eight people have died in France due to "Islamist" terrorism, you know. In total, throughout all of history. And they all died in one bombing campaign connected to the Algerian civil war, fifteen years ago. I hate to think what Sarkozy will have to do to inspire an act of terrorism which he can then bravely refuse to be cowed by.
     
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    Who likes the French? They are as "good" as muslims with or without burquas. Establishing the idea that they are all muslims is very useful, that way we can take over their land and do something useful with it for once. (I would divide it between the USA, Britain, and a few others probably.) Why shall I lie, I am disgusted every time I think of French people.
     
  14. LU6FER

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    You'r all wrong about French & Sarkozy . And lots more with Spain !
    Spain understood Mossad and CIA were using spanish population's life just for their propaganda staffel ! They now know 911 affaire was not a Moslem crime ,& especially neither was Atocha slaughter !. So they don't anymore take any Israeli's or CIA lies as god's speeches.

    Sarkozy is so afraid of present polls about his re election that his campaign staff decided to lauch it from now on , the last hope device = the fear medium .
    Same as CIA did before Iraqui war of agression , with Saddam menace.
    Then fakes films ( as this one ) and all that usual stuff is spread all over ever frighten old peoples.
    They'v never seen any black guy in their street but TV makes them scared of black peoples .To day , hudge campaign on Moslim and Gypsys is trying to rise fear of neighbour , so that Sarkozy with its police could play the white rider saviour . You all know what it's made of .

    I' am amazed how inteligent looking peoples can be cheated so many times with the same trap . Animals are usualy learning it the first time after they escape a trap , when they smell it twice they have all printed .
    Only explanation = may be they like being cheated this way.
     
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    I understand you my friend ; because each time I watch USA thinking live on TV ; I mistake it with Africa ! So primate speeches , so stupid thought using one brain for thousands of peoples who didn't even retro-fit any thinking driver . . I was liking lots of good guys from former USA but now these ones all emigrated to south of France or Spain , so much they didn't feel any more belonging to such a fascist self inflated empire.
    I myself refused several times green card that one offered me. Never would I live in USA and I much prefer living in Africa.

    To day's USA makes me barf each time I'm hearing news from there .
    ( letal injection scheduled to old mentaly insane woman in prison, as did nazis ... but christian USA can't be evil whatever ..)

    But did I tell you I am French from France ?
     
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    Eh...me. Me, I quite like the French people. It's a tradition in Scotland to like them, y'know...we've done each other a fair few favours over the years.

    The French. A great bunch of lads.:winner:

    Yes, still the Spanish did vote a change of Government after the bombing. If I remember correctly, they seemed to be saying they did not agree with Government supporting the war and antagonising Muslim terrorists. I was disappointed and a bit surprised, as they have dealt with the Basques for generations and I did not expect them to fold so easily in the face of terrorism.
     
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    Oh, OK Red, so it is not the actual Muslim terorists that are the problem even if they do attack. It would be Sarkozy purposefully engineering conditions that will cause a terror attack, and it will be his fault.

    Seriously man, do you even read what you post?

    How clever of you to set up a scenario to blame the country that is attacked instead of the attackers, typical of a self-hating Westerner. I am afraid that some people in Europe seem to be suffering from mass Stockholm Syndrome.

    How beaten-down by socialism does one have to be to subscribe to the above logic? It's llike your spine has been surgically removed. You have no interest at all in defending yourself.
     
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    OK, we can argue the above points all day, and I have, but I can tell you that boiling all of this down to a simple race issue is not intellectually honset or accurate. "Racism" is a diffusal mechanism usually used by the left as an attempt to avoid discussing much more complex issues.

    All I was saying is that if terrorists do attack France, and the people ask the government to give in to the terrorist demands because of the attack, then by definition you would be giving in to terrorism.
     
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    That is exactly my point. Their actions were based on "fear of antragonizing Muslim terrorists", you said it yourself. They changed their policy over fears of terrorism. This is the exact intention of the terrorist strategy.
     
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    The Spanish voted their government out, not directly because of the bombing, but because the government initially went to great lengths to blame ETA (the Basque separatists.) for it.
     
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    OK, well, if that is the case I get it.
     
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    Is this related to the Scottish independence movement? Would be interesting to see if that happens.
     
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    Sort of... it dates back a while to when Scotland was originally fighting for nationhood at the start of the 14th century.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auld_Alliance
     
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    FINALLY! French guys standing up to me and not afraid of calling me a name or two. This is good, this way we can all honestly say what we all feel. I think the French destabilized Europe for minimum 100 years at our (American) expense. Somebody should make the French pay already. I would love to deport the French to Siberia or Algeria, where they belong, there they can be as big of a communist or muslim as they want. But the western coast of Europe is special and important, so it should be for honest people only (!), which makes the French unwanted intruders in Europe to begin with.
     
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    We Americans successfully "drove" the English out of (most of) Ireland, I see no reason why this job cannot continue to get an independent Scotland and Wales. Must say though that the English people are very nice in this respect, today there are both Scottish and Welsh assemblies and parliaments, and galic schools. I have a healthy respect to the English/British for their sophisticated administrative intelligence.
     

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