Is France being lost to Muslims? Is all of Western Europe following?

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  1. mleonnig

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    Because the Americans living there seem to respect your laws much more than muslims as a whole. If France did ban baseball caps, I would hesitate to believe that the expatriate Yanks would threaten attacks like some Muslims did in the wake of the Burqua law.
     
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    Despite I am French ,and a bit crippled at english writing , I am deeply concerned by your description of Nothern Ilands situation & history. I follow from time to time some Scottland events , but how peoples are thinking there to day , remains a challenge.
    My family is from french Bretagne, and my father re-learnt to speak " Breton" which is very close to gaelic and was forbidden in public schools at beginning of XXth century.
    ( tradition onion walking dealers from Finistère used to understand Welch population language when they crossed the channel for their job)
    To day's gaelic cultur is very important in french Bretagne,leading all western France cultur and rising in music and writers.
    In winter , in Café on Douarnenez pier , forinstance , teenagers use to speak Breton together as the local normal language .
    Many thanks for your description of present life in these Hebrides Ilands I loved when I visit them (Malhaig, Skye Lewis Harrys walking). All the dark blue poetry of Minch straight between moor slopes .

    This subject is raising the old common mind grounds of celtian peoples that overwhelmed Europ before saxon and eastern invasions .And it is remaining through a certain way of thinking . Ideas of justice ...hard to work and hard at life , some kind of will to explore the world before enjoying back our old own land .. .
    I am feeling it more than I can explain .
     
  3. Red

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    You are in a tiny, tiny minority on this continent. Far more people believe that the world is flat, or that they have been abducted by UFOs.

    Truthers live in Iran, or in the Dakotas.

    When people smile patiently at your ideas, and tell you how interesting they are, they just want you to go away.
     
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    In the 2001 census, 1.2% of the Scots population had "some ability" in Gaelic.

    This is down from 1.4% in ninety-one, 1.6% in eighty-one. That is "alive and kicking" like a twitching corpse.

    Look, it's nothing to celebrate but on the other hand, who is going to commit to educating themselves in a language spoken only by sixty thousand people, in preference to arguably the most globally useful of world languages? In my experience, kids from the Islands are ambitious and aspirational, more likely to watch BBC4 than BBC Alba. Do you, for example, speak Gaelic?
     
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    And it seems that way, why? To whom?

    You're still talking about the terrible, unforgivable terrorist atrocity which has not happened. How do we know that it hasn't been committed - and quite possibly will never be committed - by someone from North Africa? Perhaps this entirely hypothetical attack hasn't been committed - and quite possibly will never be committed - by someone from the United States.

    How to pre-empt both possibilities? Force foreign-born women to walk around in their lingerie and pronounce lingerie properly..?
     
  6. Red

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    No, it's not.

    Breton is closest to Cornish, but similar to Welsh. It's as different from Gaelic as two Celtic languages can be.
     
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    I won't dispute this lingual roots ,I am far from being a connaisseur in this stuff. The celtian peoples had lots of local variation in languages.
    But could you tell me what ties does exist between the Pict (the oldest scottish language you were speaking of ) and the Gaélic ? Common roots or the same thing that is being changing with time ??
    As I remeber the story of Scottland , this land had never been invaded by any " uitlanders " which could have canceld a language as happened to England Celtic around Year 500 . French Breton had been mixed with the Britany fugitives celtian, when some survivors of the Saxon's slaughters arrived in France on Mont Jou .(*)(#550)



    (*) Mt Jou was the name ( JOVE from Jupiter : a roman temple of these times) of nowadays Mont St Michel .
     
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    Sorry , too late for same post.


    Anyway , to resume the genuin topic about Israel manipulation over " moslim hate " in France and else where,do you know that :

    -01/ A latest poll in N. Y. gave 84 % of peoples who are definytly refusing the official story of 911 .
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/141006poll.htm
    (we can't find any word about this in any of french news network , all of them being under jewish management in France)

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    -02/ I don't know if anything similar happened in England but in France to day ,a hudge campaign from MEMRI (**) lauched the story of an Iranian woman who was to be executed by lapidation in Théhéran.
    All our papers took it on front pages, protestations were organized ..Forums were filled up with long hatefull speeches ...TV.... all led by usual Jews .Politics even talked about " the savage Iranian people" .
    During a week , we have watched here all the jewish hate network firing 19 inch navy shells on evil persian folks ,with this topic .

    Then , a French artist (one of best french humorist: Dieudonné) paid a journey to Téhéran , and disclosed... that all was fake !!
    All was false !! If this is not a crime , we ought to rebuilt all of our civil laws . But justice's jailing for 5 month a 17Y old guy for 5 gr of hashish!!

    All was MEMRI stuff , do you remeber when same choosen guys were round the clock bombing Lord Ken Livingstone the spanky mayor of London who disclosed the MEMRI "free translations" of arab issues were all faked in order to make people think Iranian folks were " evil" .

    Hate industry is an all jewish international trust . It's goal is wars made by us ,for their own benefit. Truth is seldom complicated.

    So to day: just no more words in any paper about it , especially not a single one for denying of the lies . Jewish hate stamp as we know it .
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article166999.html (french )
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    -03 / On same topic : A mentaly sick woman is close to be executed in USA , by normal good smart non persian (nor Muslim ) WASP guys .
    But this information is not a Hoax !
    Jews from US judiciary actually kill many Black or Spanians without too much head ache. Arabians and Persians are much less in any hurry to kill peoples .Datas of death penalties rated on population tells it clear.
    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/143410.html

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    That's life to day ! But what kind of life Jews are fighting for us - non Jews - to live ? Thats the strengt verboten zehr restricted secret of the big scamm or whatever name you'r used to give to it.




    (**) MEMRI is zionist fanaticized org which spreads hoax and all kind of forged news in order to push peoples to support wars against Moslems , Afghans , and any peoples Israel want to withdraw from earth . They'v a big building in Washington , not far from ADL's one.
     
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    and there you have it in one.

    because americans are so poor.. they cannot afford to travel.. and so they can be fed propaganda by their controllers.

    they even believe they have more freedoms.. than other countries... it is hilarious.

    they believe whatever they are told.

    united states of gullible peasants.
     
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    There are very few people in the north of Scotland as compared to the Central belt, obviously the figures would have reflected less people speaking Gaelic by comparison, due to the demographics. I'd like a link to the Census to read that for myself before commenting further.

    What I will say is when you go north of here, which is already north of Glasgow, road signs are in Gaelic and plenty of people speak Gaelic. I have plenty of friends who speak it. I have heard much talk about regenerating Gaelic in recent years and as you know the Scottish Parliament is headed by SNP so that is perhaps unsurprising news. And take a current Census your results may differ. It's really not dying out and my impression is the opposite.

    But you'll know better, down in the innards of that other place.

    Btw, my education said English was adopted by Scots because it was a convenient language to use for commerce and with the French who were here helping us build castles and such, not because English oppressed it onto them. Also the people who did oppress during the period you referred to were often just as Scottish as the Scots they oppressed. It was a civil war. I'm sure you're aware, but in case others are not.
     
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    I'd go with the video, but that's me....:mrgreen: These are the same idiots calling the Mosque by ground zero a bridge builder, while over 70% of the population is against it.You make the call...
    They seem to see things differently than most, which usually winds up in their favor...surprise!!
     
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    If ever you hapen to be concerned with truth , just check the side information about 05 riots , you'll easily print it was a jewish knitted event .
    Only main medias , under contract , are goin on with these cheated news.
    Either you don't want to know , or you are knowing the truth but....
     
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    Pictish is completely lost, theories range from its being closer to Welsh, or to Gaelic, or to Gaulish, or to Ligurian or even to Basque. We have no idea.

    You couldn't be more wrong about Scotland never being invaded. The "Scots" (like the "Angles", like the "Franks") first arrived in the country which bears their name during the fifth and sixth centuries as the western Roman Empire declined, and they brought their Gaelic language with them - from Ireland*. Before then, the people of what is now Scotland had spoken whatever Pictish was, and also early Welsh.

    It's highly contentious, by the way, to describe the first Breton settlers of Armorica as "fugitives". The north-west of France was depopulated, after the rising of the Bagaudae, and British colonists filled a gap. This began before the first Saxon migrations.

    * The great Billy Connelly = "The Scots originally came from Ireland. (*)(*)(*)(*) knows why. Hey, everybody, I've found an even colder place! It rains all the time!
     
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    That is utter tosh and bumwipe.

    If most New Yorkers are going about their daily routines convinced that their own military has tried to kill them before and might do again - with a display of sang froid which this Englishman finds incredible - how would the great Jewish conspiracy keep this news out of the Chinese, Indian and African press? Maybe Le Pen and all the other fils de Pétain are "under Jewish management", but The Hindu? The South China Morning Post?
     
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    Here's your link:

    I quoted 1.2% as having some ability, and you'll see the same figure given further on in the article. The figure of "nearly 2%" (1.9%) is arrived at by counting people who have some ability on paper - i.e. people who can understand your Gaelic roadsigns but couldn't begin to pronounce them. There's a Rosetta Stone effect at work there.

    I don't share the optimism of "thriving as well as declining". It seems to me that young people, some of whom know some Gaelic, are leaving the Hebrides for other parts of Scotland and they are no more likely to pass their knowledge of Gaelic on to the next generation than did any of the many thousands of Hebrideans who have made the same peregrination before them.

    And nobody ever learned English to converse with a Norman. By the time kings of England were speaking English, the language had been native between the Forth and the Tweed for many centuries.
     
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    Oh, yeah ?

    I suppose the truth may transpire from your next posts ?

    Please, do tell us, we are eager to hear your cold analysis on that ?
     
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    I do have some knowledge of the subject and the current estimate is that Pictish was a Brythonic language akin to Cumbric. The Welsh theory is also a possibility as the earliest poem in the Welsh language, "Y Goddodin" which dates to somewhere in the 6th century CE, was written in the Lothians.

     
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    As has been the case forever. What percentage of Scots live outwith the central belt? Plus in the central belt, what percentage would be speaking "English English" as opposed to Scots? English is the language of commerce and business. Few of us speak it at home, you might say English is no more our language than it is the language of any other culture which only adopted it for economic opportunities.

    I'm aware and are you aware which nationality first chose to use it as a medium for education and helped move it from working class to something prestigious? Scotland adopted it by choice for the reasons I stated above, that it was an easier communal language than any other and you may not have heard the one about the French, but I heard it from the Open University, so I'll stick with that :-D
     
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    If by "Scots" you mean Lallans (Lowlands) then that would normally be spoken in the lowland central belt, the clue being in the name. There's also Weegie, but that is barely understood in Edinburgh. (or to be frank anywhere but Glasgow!)
     
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    From Wiki:
    My husband taught English as a Foreign Language at university in South America, for years and managed very well with US English speakers. When he came here, he said we don't speak English. He's right, we don't, unless we are working or in a business setting.
     
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    Do you use to decide what is true apon the fear you'd have concerning the content of this truth ?

    World would be strange , built this way .

    Do you think peoples stop thinking when TV stops being honnest with truth ?

    But our world is realy turning queer on lots of great public topics.
    First it was our money which vanished . Magic answers from King surroundings smoothed the old people. The crisis !( a monster from beyond)
    No one here seems to question why England has fallen so quickly so low in world states scales (*)?
    Peoples being as highly qualified as before ,and hard working and so on ..
    The " crisis" they sais , as if it was some kind of natur punishment as a tsunami. In factyet , it is an artefact !hand made. not a tropical erratic pressur field turning in .. " crisis ".Some mens are responsible .
    11000 billions of $ from OUR states monay to private pockets in 2008 ! Why for, why no reversing in so gigantic services paid to so few .

    Nobody never suspects what governement says as if they were god, but I can tell they arn't ,and citizen arn't believers , power place is not heaven!

    Don't you remind N Chamberlain lies when back from Munich treaty with Germany.
    All memory cleard about what Brian Moffat confessed (on Granada TV befor 2000), about the way he simply destroyed all Brittish steel industry ( CORUS STEEL affair) to sell the remains then put it into his own pocket.Pledged by the Queen .(himself told all on Tv)
    We laugh at African kings telling funnies but our own Kings of politic buyzness remains leaders as well in those funnies of public lies .African are more inteligent than us laughing at their kings lies as well as at their own powerless situation. But we'r stayin stiff at listening the dirtyest lies from our TV apes 'kings.


    If you look at how news spreading works : peoples first aknowledge what tv speakers says.
    Then - those who can - they think to consistancy of explanations with each others ' .Next commes secondarys informations ( from non official eye witness ), .
    The consistancy of truth is impossible to synthetise, even on short time.
    After enough time the general lack of fact consistency induces peoples to ask for explanations , which are easy to produce when official powermen have nothing to hide an are from the same side of event as the victims, as it's supposed to be .
    Which clearly it was not, so many first size questions being never answered by those who should have been able to .So easy to end those doubt by answers, if no actual tcheating exist.
    This fact itself is strengthening the doubtfull position : why did they refuse answering ? Close Eyes witnesses themselves asking some questions of very plain logic were rejected.What for?

    But the way to behave with any informations, how to press them and get the truth juice out of the whole amount of news( as justice investigations use to proceed ) is an empiric science which is reaching to day a very efficient level.
    All the content of what's wrong is filling now lots of reports files films and books . For several years specialists don't show any more smallest doubt about the tcheating .
    Morover now , to day the "reasons why ", are showing up on the front sceen !
    This only Hudge hate propaganda campaign here ,against Eastern world is only apearing as an element of the next step of the war game .
    And we find an enormous majority of Jews at work on this scene side of hate fanaticism . That's why I says " Jews" . I can't call them Arians nor Scotts .

    But this question is important enough for each of us to feels the need of aprehending closely the truth .Main Job is done , you'v just to search & read & weigh across your own feeling balance.
    And then you filter every day's news through the war game logic facts filter revealed by 911 , 9 Y ago. It's a pleasant game , playing with true world . I use to get a lot of fun at playing this very special dungeon & dragon for now ten years.
    Each eve hypothesis , you find the answer in next day's newspaper.So you crash or you win , but each day you'r learning !
    It's a long time I didn't crash .








    (*) and France's following closely ,no doubt)
     
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    I'll stop you there.

    How do "the Jews" keep their secrets in this century, when an Indian or a Chinese can so easily propagate a news story around the world wide web?

    Wouldn't a member of the worldwide Jewish conspiracy stand out somewhat in a Beijing or New Delhi newsroom?

    Answer?
     
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    I thank you for these details . Of course , in any mankind history , "ever & never" can't be used without any risk. With the datations you settle , I agree with your tongue landscape of these times . I have read ( and often come back to it ) the André Maurois ' Histoire d' Angleterre .
    The best of French history books seems to be written by English ( Louis 11 by Murray Kendal is one of my best favorites), same as the best of Brittish History seems to be French work .(among ones I use to read).

    Lots of small local stories joining the common one give us clues and details :such as the Mont Saint Michel history in France ,and forinstance the story of King ALFRED against Guthrun Danish invasions , a true legendary king whose jewel ( a ring carved with " alfred had me made" in the exact place where he hid before fighting back to throne with the fyrd help ) has been fund in XVIIth century.at the place he lost it around VII cntry. ( Athelney iland in Sommerset).
    I like those kind of local tiny stories.
     

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