Is Islam a sexist religion?

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Is Islam, if properly understood, sexist by our 2016 definition?

  1. No.... not at all.

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  2. Yes... obviously!

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  3. No more sexist than Christianity as explained by Paul.

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  4. A sexist understanding of Islam is a misunderstanding.

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  1. AlifQadr

    AlifQadr Well-Known Member

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    What I stated is not BS at all, it is a known fact that women are the first to make physical contact in a disagreement, which is why boys are told not to argue with a female. I know I was talk it as were other boys. Women and females are not the kittens that many are taught that they are.
     
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    BS. QED: no empirical data to support your prejudice.
     
  3. AlifQadr

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    Empirical evidence? As though a biased media is going to offer factual evidence that contradicts the narrative of "men bad, women good". My evidence is knowing the behavioral characteristics of of the females that I have dealt with, as well as what other men have dealt with, in regards to relationships.
     
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    Anecdotal evidence regularly buttresses biased attitudes.

    So these are some facts about domestic violence.

    https://ncadv.org/statistics
    • On average, nearly 20 people per minute are physically abused by an intimate partner in the United States. During one year, this equates to more than 10 million women and men.1
    • 1 in 4 women and 1 in 9 men experience severe intimate partner physical violence, intimate partner contact sexual violence, and/or intimate partner stalking with impacts such as injury, fearfulness, post-traumatic stress disorder, use of victim services, contraction of sexually transmitted diseases, etc.2
      • 1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have experienced some form of physical violence by an intimate partner. This includes a range of behaviors (e.g. slapping, shoving, pushing) and in some cases might not be considered "domestic violence." 1
      • 1 in 7 women and 1 in 25 men have been injured by an intimate partner.1
      • 1 in 10 women have been raped by an intimate partner. Data is unavailable on male victims.1
    • 1 in 4 women and 1 in 7 men have been victims of severe physical violence (e.g. beating, burning, strangling) by an intimate partner in their lifetime.1
    • 1 in 7 women and 1 in 18 men have been stalked by an intimate partner during their lifetime to the point in which they felt very fearful or believed that they or someone close to them would be harmed or killed.1
     
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    Ooooo, I'm tellin'! You have contradicted the narrative that is commonly sold about domestic violence. You shall be burned at the stake for HERESY! BLASPHEMER! :laughing: See, as an MRA, I know about domestic violence, which is why I made the statement(s) about domestic violence and the initiator(s) thereof.
     
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    except for your statement about how women are the more likely instigator, despite the rather disproportionate victim stats.
     
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    Other research gives other figures. Here.

    Already at that time 70% of non-reciprocal violence was perpetrated by women. That was 2001. That is as expected since Mainstream Media glorifies violence against men.

    Most men are decent people. Most women are decent people.

    Western Culture which treats male victims of abuse as perpetrators is an order of magnitude more sexist then any Muslim culture.
     
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    Do you always make such hyperbolic nonsensical definitive comparisons?
     
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    I have never been abused. I have no first hand experience.

    But most men who sustain DV and ask for help are arrested rather then helped. Here.

    Of course many men who have neither been abused nor accused and presumed guilty are unaware of discrimination. They have not personally experienced it.

    I have not experienced anything, but I read a lot.
     
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    But we are going way off track up here in Canada.....

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10162595007070284&set=a.10152661871565284&type=3&theater


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    Perhaps with that particular one... I don't know.. .but Muslim men are taught that Christian girls are
    there for their pleasure.

     
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    I would say “most religions”

    Just to be clear.... whether you like religion or not... religion is fundamentally all about so called traditional values.... and sexism is among those traditional values.....so, the more medieval a religion is.... likely the more sexist they will be.... and on balance, islam these days is a pretty friggin medieval religion .... cutting off heads, cutting off hands, hanging homosexuals, honor killings, burkas...etc.

    Its not that i hate or disrespect muslims.... but facts are facts
     
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    Wow.. you must think that every Muslim country is the same. Which countries have you lived in and how did they compare to each other?
     
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    Dennis.... i have previously posted hat i think islam is a religion sadly stuck in medievalism.... so i am not generally defending islam.

    That said, i think it is disingenuous To present stuff by ISIS as representative of normal islam. If you would like, i could do a similar thing with fringe Christianity... and no doubt everyone would immediately understand that these groups are not the Christian norm.

    Yeah, muslims are stuck in medievalism...l but ya don’t have to post ISIS stuff to make that point
     
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    No they aren't.. You might try something other than trashy hate sites.
     
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    Just FWIW
    I live in a region that has a fair number of muslims (san francisco-silicon valley). So i have often encountered muslims in a wide variety of circumstances. I have to say that in EVERY CASE these people have been normal or better.... respectful, pleasant, upright, friendly, professional.

    I have been to a mosque.... it was a nice place, the people I encountered were good people... not unlike the people you might encounter at any Christian church. Well organized, clean, peaceful, friendly, warm. I would feel absolutely confident if my daughter had to visit that place

    that is my real world experience with muslims. And i think my real world experience counts for more than a hate video dredged up off the Internet. But i guess we each find our own truth in the places that we frequent
     
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    Btw
    I have never been approached by a muslim trying to get me to convert. I have never been threatened with hell unless i accept Mohamed and Allah. I have never had muslims knocking on my door.
     
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    Good point.....
    I just finished watching the first documentary and you are correct that ISIS is not
    at all normal Islam....that is actually what the people in the film are saying.

    They are saying that normal Muslims are sick and tired of the hatred and the atrocities of
    ISIS and are amazingly willing to hear about a very different way of life than ISIS is advocating.
     
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    A lot of Christians are turning around to a very different way of looking at hell......

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/gay/christian-andreason.html#a14

     
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    Dennis
    One disconcerting thing about this is that one would hope there would be a more solid and unchanging idea about something so very serious.

    when the government says eggs are bad and margarine is good... Then change their tune and say eggs ok and margarine bad.... it undermines confidence. I find the same to be true of Christian dogmas that morph over time or sect It seems to me to be strange that we would be expected to sort through an enormous number of contradictory claims about the word of god.
     
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    Have a little respect towards the neanderthals, jeez.
     
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    Good for you...if you hadn't said it , I would've....Hilarious that some think their religion ISN'T sexist.
     
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    OR......... could it be that YHWH / the G-d of Abraham / HaShem / The Ancient of Days The Father........ (and the Holy Spirit who I tend to wonder if she could be G-d the Mother).......
    when they decided to allow Covering Cherub Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan to conduct a SEVEN THOUSAND year psychological experiment..........

    They knew that they had to progressively reveal new information as.........
    the paradigm would be SHIFTED........ by prayer with chutzpah such as done by
    Pastor Todd Burpo on behalf of his three year and ten month old son who
    was dying???????

    I personally believe from reading both versions of "Heaven is For Real" that
    Pastor Todd Burpo's prayers on behalf of his son shifted the paradigm so that
    in the future......... after his prayers.... the wheels would be set in motion so that
    Messiah Yeshua - Jesus would................ tend to NOT allows servants of H-s.....
    friends of H-s.... children of H-s..... to face disaster after disaster in life.....


    ..... because Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan is off the scale intelligent......
    and...... knew that in order to test humans to see if we really LOVED TRUTH.....

    .... it would be necessary to NOT allow there to be a direct and immediate
    reward.... for lining up your life closely with truth......

    Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan has rewarded people for lying by taking them to
    high positions of wealth and power but.........

    I think that the somewhat MOSAIC prayers of Pastor Todd Burpo have
    shifted the paradigm......
    and altered the whole formula!!!!

    From now on we will see liars and sociopaths taken DOWN from positions of
    great wealth and power and we will see sincere people exalted.........

    In a way... President Trump was elected President because G-d knew him that
    in spite of all of his many, many, many, many, many personal flaws......

    he would defend Christians and Jews.... in spite of all their flaws.....
    because their opponents in the political left are INSANE.......

    ...... The Squad have pretty much destroyed the Democratic Party but they are too
    simplistic in their thinking to even realize that fact!!!!

    I believe that we will all be shocked when we find out how much the angry
    prayers of Pastor Todd Burpo toward G-d....... changed this whole world and has
    brought the kingdom of G-d much, much, much closer to this earth!

    Our great, great, great, great grandfather Adam gave up a Throne to Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan by obeying his advice vs the advice of the Word / Logos of the Elohim...... . but that authority that Adam once had is step by step... little by little being taken back by the grandchildren of Adam and Eve......

    and Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan is making it as difficult as possible every step of the way because being arguably one of the greatest psychologists in the universe / multiverse he knows that we will not appreciate something if we are given it too easily!?

    Warning... if we really mess up this experiment could perhaps take an extra thousand years and could go into OVERTIME... the eighth millennium!!!!!

    The seeming contradictions in the Jewish and Christian Bible as well as their seeming contradictions to the Islamic writings will soon make sense!


    A message from Adam to all mankind by Rick Joyner.

     
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