Is it time to invade North Korea?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by The Mandela Effect, Apr 12, 2017.

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Should the United States bomb/invade North Korea?

  1. We should leave them alone.

    23 vote(s)
    37.7%
  2. We should take out there nuclear bombs with an air stike but stop there.

    9 vote(s)
    14.8%
  3. We should fully invade, becuase the nut running NK needs to go.

    6 vote(s)
    9.8%
  4. I don't know

    6 vote(s)
    9.8%
  5. Only if China helps us fight them.

    7 vote(s)
    11.5%
  6. Only if the UN votes and agrees to help us fight them.

    10 vote(s)
    16.4%
  1. The Mandela Effect

    The Mandela Effect Well-Known Member

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    While Trump is going to do what ever Trump want's to do with North Korea at this point. What do people think of making the war with North Korea hot again. Is it worth the risk or is it best left alone.

    I have mixed feeling's about attacking North Korea, but I worry what will happen if they are left to make more nuclear weapons and better rockets. They might even get an H-bomb one day if left unchecked.

    I know if they manage to hit South Korea or Japan with a nuke that it will forever tarnish the view of the United States in the eyes of many people not only in the US but the world for many reasons. Hopefully that can be prevented and that if a hot war breaks out that the people there can be helped.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    We don't need to start a war in any country.
    We've done that, and failed everytime.
     
  3. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At some point, Kim will make a mistake...and his generals will take him out.

    At that point, the UN will have to move in and remove the nuclear arsenal...however big it is.

    A war...no matter how started...will provoke Kim to act against South Korea. Seoul is within easy reach of Kim's missiles...and the North probably has the capability of delivering nuclear devices on the South. 20,000,000 people live in the greater Seoul area...and we have military bases there.

    War in that area right now would be the worst disaster ever to befall planet Earth.

    I wish we had adults at the helm of the ship of State. Bad enough they do not.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, like all bullies the US only attacks 'the little guys' - NK isn't so little, so I guess the next thing we hear is the US has petitioned for diplomacy, and has asked China to mediate.
     
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    This sounds like a smart idea if you're trying to get WW3 started much faster.
     
  6. AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS

    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    It is time to put and end to their nuclear threat and free their people from their terrible authoritarian communist regime, reunite them with south korea..
     
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    Only because the generals were not given a goal and allowed to reach that goal without interference. The military cannot fight any war with their hands tied behind their back.
     
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    Dropship Well-Known Member

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    I bet Don is poring over a map like this one with his itchy trigger finger hovering over the cruise missile/drone/airstrike launch button..:)

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    Not our job to free or unite anyone.
     
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    Dropship Well-Known Member

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    Right, politicians lose wars. For example Gen. Westmoreland said after Nam- "Washington locked me into a defensive strategy, thereby preventing me bringing the war to a swift conclusion".

    And I could hardly believe my ears when I heard Obama say on TV during his first term-
    "Our aim in Afghanistan is not to defeat the Taliban, but to contain them" (my highlight)

    And although Truman had the guts to atom-bomb Japan twice, he then went into wimp mode by letting the Soviets stay in control of half of Europe. Gen Patton wanted him to order the Russians to pull back to the prewar Russian border, but Truman chickened out, even though Russia had no atomic bombs for another 4 years.
    Most of our own Brit politicos are just as hand-wringingly yellow, Maggie Thatcher was the only one in recent times who had any guts- "I ordered the sinking of the Belgrano because it was threatening our boys in the task force"
    PS- Trump is from the same great mould as Westmoreland, Patton and Maggie..:)

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  11. Dropship

    Dropship Well-Known Member

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    As for invading North Korea (or any other country) the old-fashioned way by putting boots on the ground, it's not necessary (in most cases) in this day and age, as it's just as effective to bomb a country back into the stone age by surgically knocking out their infrastructure like power stations, bridges, factories, airports etc with a blitz by cruise missiles, drones and airstrikes.
    The late Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf said as much-
    "I am quite confident that in the foreseeable future armed conflict will not
    take the form of huge land armies facing each other
    across extended battle
    lines, as they did in World War I and World War II or, for that matter, as
    they would have if NATO had faced the Warsaw Pact on the field of battle."
    http://www.military-quotes.com/Schwarzkopf.htm
     
  12. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's completely false.

    Shock and Awe...
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    N. Korea has been, for the last twenty years, the shiny object used to distract us from real issues. N. Korea is the unifying enemy that keeps us from looking inside at our real issues. Healthcare is an issue? Look at N. Korea! Real wages falling? N. Korea launched a missile!

    It's not Trump. Well, actually, not just Trump. Clinton, Bush, and Obama all used N. Korea to distract us from real issues.

    There will be lots of screaming and hand wringing and in the end we will give N. Korea some food and they will "agree" to stop their programs.

    And then it will all start again.
     
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    It like the phoney wra





    It just like the phoney wrassling trump is so fond of...it's all mouth and no substance. A bunch of fat mouthy jerks making a fat living off conning the stupid stupid public...
     
  15. Dropship

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    What's completely false?
    Are you saying you'd rather put American boots on the ground and get some of them killed rather than use cruise missiles and drones to do the job?
     
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    When we do things as lone wolves, we will have our hands tied. The nation and the world is watching and we better tow the line. It's always a lose lose situation.
    Better to stay out. But we need to wash the hands of the corporate puppet masters from time to time. So we start a meaningless war.
     
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    There is no greater weapon than the soldier. We can't nuke NK due to SK being there, and China. You can't win a war through the air- that's RIDICULOUS. To win, you NEED boots on the ground.

    Soldiers can capture towns, strategic zones, and collect intelligence that bombs and drones cannot.

    Glad I could help clear up your confusion
     
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    Dropship Well-Known Member

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    Yes mate,it depends on what type of war and what the objectives are.
    For example our troops had to go into Europe to root out nazis face-to-face,

    US troops kill SS-officer Ernst Fick (left) and his driver

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    But putting boots on the ground carries a risk to our troops, for example here's one of over 2000 Obama got killed in Afgh-
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    At the moment North Koreas nuke facilities pose a threat, so they could be taken out quickly and cleanly with cruise missiles and drones, and not a single US life would be lost..:)
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    Guy, we sign the dotted line to die for our country. The Commander in Chief can't be worried about my well being. If there's an enemy, we're going to crush it. That's why our motto in the infantry is "Follow Me!"
     
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    Dropship Well-Known Member

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    Yes, if cruise missiles, drones and airstrikes fail to do it, the troops will have to be sent in to finish the job, and I bet there's not a manjack of them who isn't itching for the fight..:)

    "Dad, why did you become a soldier?"
    "Because I wanted to meet the enemy up close son, face to face"
    ..:)

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    Drones, bombs, and planes cannot collect field intelligence on the ground. It's the most important intelligence. So soldiers will always be involved in war.
     
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    You have to admit though, softening the enemy with any Shock & Awe campaign, makes mopping up the resistance relatively easy for those boots made for waring.
     
  24. ArmySoldier

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    It wasn't as successful as people think. Hit a lot of empty buildings because Bush gave Saddam time to evacuate his people. Should have never done that
     
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    I agree.

    If / when push comes to shove, it's likely Trump won't give Lil' Kim much of a heads up though.
     

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