repeating the same mistake in the summer of 1950 and expecting different results is a sign of insanity
Most likely scenario if the situation heats up more is the Chinese or the Russians or both arrange for the Mad Midget to have an 'accident', die from food poisoning or a 'sudden heart attack', something of that sort, and all of a sudden a new 'reform govt.' pops up like magic, a kind of N. Korean 'Springtime for Hitler' or something, and the Chinese and Russians get to save face and not be seen as backing down, which is their only alternative if the situation continues to fester.
china and russia people would feel that the usa can come into their back yard mess it up laugh and get away with it , so the leaders are walking a fine line in china and russia now if they do nothing to the NWO power play
Yes. They will find a way to defuse it themselves, hence my guess on how they do it. there are other possibilities, but if they don't include this nutjob being prevented from exporting dirty weapons and the like then the pressure should be kept up or nothing is gained.
The US is setting up a missile defense as we speak. That massive army won't be very massive after an air assault and that massive army will starve after a couple of days of fighting. NK has already threatened to drop a nuke on the US. Would China rather wait until Honolulu is leveled and have us respond with a nuke? China may not like their options, but getting NK under control is in their best interests and they know it.
I suspect there are many options at play where North Korea is concerned and the one you put forth is a very real possibility, hopefully China and Russia choose to remove the nut job any way possible. That would be the best outcome for the world.
I don't think NK's goal is to launch a nuclear missle. If attacked, sure they might do it, but their end game goal is to be more secure while owning an arsenal of nuclear weapons. Not to destroy other nations. It's widely believed they already have the weapon ready, but do not possess stable missles yet that can reach up to the American west coast. Once that happens, the game of bluffpoker is over, but doesn't need to end in violence.
You really don't think that nutcase would use his nukes to hit the US or at least give some to other people who will. The leader of North Korea is evil and totally deranged, why would anyone think he is doing all this just to never use them?
He threatened to nuke America. He is either a liar or he is insane. Trust him if you want, but I won't.
Because that would also destroy him obviously. Try and look at it rationally from his point of view and the experts agree on it as well. His main concern is to ensure the survival of his nation and his dynasty. He needs nukes for leverage and not to hit randomly.
What should I have added missile strike as a choice next to an air strike. Most people don't really give a flipping bird if North Korea's Nuclear weapons are taken out with a missile fired from a ship or a bomb dropped from a plane. Maybe I should have said just to take out the Nuclear weapon stock piles instead of wording it an air strike if I knew someone was going to throw a fit over the wording.
Nah, a fullscale boots-on-the-ground invasion is the oldfashioned way.. Nowadays we can firstly bomb countries back into the stone age simply by surgically taking out his infrastructure (factories/ power stations/ bridges/ airfields/ missile sites/ barracks/ port installations, tyrant palaces etc) with cruise missiles and smart-bomb strikes while keeping civilian casualties to a minimum. Schwarzkopf touched on it when he once said- "I am quite confident that in the foreseeable future armed conflict will not take the form of huge land armies facing each other across extended battle lines, as they did in World War I and World War II or, for that matter, as they would have if NATO had faced the Warsaw Pact on the field of battle." - General H. Norman Schwarzkopf http://www.military-quotes.com/Schwarzkopf.htm Of course, if the enemy still fails to see sense, that's when the troops go in. "Dad, I thought we'd bombed them real bad, so why are you being sent in?" "Because we're needed to finish the job son. We're the men who meet the enemy up close, face to face"
Israel is the life action testing scene of that missile defense system. Hamas is still able to hit Israel with little flimsy do it your own MacGyver ductape crap that goes boom. South Korea is not getting some amazingly new 10 times better system. It's just likely that they are getting the same thing, or a worse system. I think that is not going to hold up to fully professional, x times the speed of sound travelling missile, with a chemical agent in it's warhead. It will have succes. But not anywhere a 100%. And no. The army of NK is so massively huge, that you can not surprise attack it, and hope it will be done in a couple of hours. That is enough time for NK to totally destroy Seoul with it's 25 million people living in it. What the US needs to understand, that an all out massive war against NK is not going to be acceptable. It will result that millions of poor uneducated North Koreans will flee to China. And China rather sink an US aircraft carrier by accident instead accept the problem of that massive amount of immigrants with no roof, no food, no water, no clothing, no education.. no nothing. And Putin is in the mix as well. And the US has threatened to supersize attack the NK suddenly without a proper declaration of war all the time. It has a massive army build for decades at their border. It sends in a massive fleet as well. Hence NK is perfectly in it's right to reply this with an equal rhetoric.
lol why would they flee to China rather than South Korea??? Ridiculous. The 'Army of NK' is half-starved irregulars, and will desert in massive numbers at the first opportunity. They know that the second a war breaks out they're toast.
Unpredictability keeps our friends guessing too. Is that smart? Is it being a good friend? Is it a way to have diplomatic success?
Is it time to invade North Korea? No, not until diplomacy has a chance for success. I agree something must be done before NK obtains functional intercontinental ballistic missiles, but we still have 2-4 years before that happens. Use that time effectively for pushing a diplomatic solution. Nuclear war isn't a solution. Nuclear bombs aren't like regular bombs. Japan had been fighting in WWII for seven years before we used the first nuclear bombs against them, and it only took two to convince them to surrender. Have you ever wondered how many nuclear bombs it would take to devastate the U.S.? I suspect two strategically placed nuclear bombs in a single day could incapacitate the U.S. as a functional society for a very long time.
Guess again.....the NKoreans have 2 million man regular army of the best troops, and 8 million reserve troops...they would overrun SKorea in two days, and their USA stooges there as well..just like a repeat of 1950...only this time many Skoreans would join the north, as they are one people, and the Americans are outsiders...time they were kicked out permanently
There are ways to let allies know whats happening without letting the general public know. If the general public knows then so do our enemies.
And again, their Big Giant Numbers are mostly irrelevant, no matter how many times people keep repeating them. If Big Numbers mattered, Red China would own three quarters of the planet, the Soviets would have never been driven back to Moscow and have to rely on Britain and the U.S. to slog their way back to their own original borders, and oh, about a hundred thousand more examples from just European history alone.
The girlymen from the USA could not even beat little VietNam, how do you think they will do against a real army? Not too good... Don't rile the Chinese or Russians or you will find out how good they are...they will be marching in downtown USA...the girlymen in USA won't be able to stop them..