Is Neo[Atheism] a Rational Religion?

Its a very simple reading exercise to realize that ll of the isms posted lack a worldview in common. The best you can produce is purposeful consistencies in your argument.

If people can agree on atheism while having different worldviews, then atheism isn't a worldview. It is simply, at most, a belief or opinion that several worldviews share.

 

How do you define "religion"?

 

Jains believe in souls. They are not materialists. They are not pure physicalists. Look up their wiki if you want to, since that is your preferred source.

 

Which ones believe in a god?

 

And now we have an actual straw man. Now one said they believe in god. We agree that they share a BELIEF OR OPINION. They do not share a WORLDVIEW. This should not be a surprise since WORLDVIEWS INVOLVE MULTIPLE BELIEFS AND OPINIONS. Has this finally sunk in? Notice how you are struggling to come up with ANY OTHER BELIEF THAT THEY ALL SHARE? That's because they ain't the same worldview.

 

The 2 word short form? Your comprehensive strongly held beliefs that you adhere to to govern your actions.

 

They share disbelief in god based upon their reasons, there is no rule book that demands they have to have the same reasons as you pretend,

Its no struggle more of a pain in the backside flushing you out from every rabbit hole you can find

 

@Kokomojojo, also keep in mind that you have also argued that belief in any kind of values or morals is also a belief in the supernatural. So any atheist who believes in values and/or morals, according to you, also believes in the supernatural. There goes Jains, Buddhists, atheist Quakers, atheist UUs, secular humanists . . . pretty much everyone but outright nihilists.

 

Sharing one belief =/= sharing a worldview. I have confidence that you will finally learn this one day. It is an elementary concept.

 

So you answer your own question with your definition. Any strongly held beliefs that one adheres to to govern their actions is a religion.

 

more like a universe view, where the world is a part
Its sharing the comprehensive position, NOT one belief, stop pretending please this is getting very old

 

In general, nothing with this is concrete

 

Play that shell game if you want, but sharing one belief =/= sharing a worldview.

 

Again its sharing one comprehensive label each has a multitude of attached beliefs that you simply pretend does not exist.

 

Based upon your own definition: Any strongly held belief that one adheres to so as to govern their actions.

 

Ah, we've got a "nothing really means anything" thing going on here, I see.

 

The fact that it is the only thing they share proves it isn't comprehensive. The fact that the multitude of other beliefs they have aren't shared proves that they are not part of the same worldview. That you simply pretend this isn't true is no excuse. Also, I've already clarified for you that I've never denied the additional beliefs these people had. This is another reminder. Please stop trolling.

 

Just a simple observation that a worldview involves multiple beliefs, not just one, but Koko can't even admit that much. In the past Koko has defined religion in such broad terms that it would include baseball fandom. So, yeah, to the point that nothing really means anything anymore.

 

yep looks like there are both natural and supernatural souls, Im going to have to look into that.
In the natural order, souls are transported to the afterlife by reapers, and with the supervision of Death. ... Known destinations of souls are Heaven, Hell and Purgatory. In Supernatural, a soul separate from its body is visualized as a blinding white light.

 

false, you just dont like it because it not limited strictly to deity worship, and includes you

 

Seeing as you've also defined all belief in values or morals as belief in the supernatural, you've got bigger problems than that.

Also . . . you are quoting a TV show fandom wiki. This is just getting hilarious.

 

Another fake argument. I've repeatedly acknowledged the existence of religions that don't worship deities. I've done so in this thread and pretty much every other time we've had this argument. Why are you pretending not to know that now?

 

then the same silly thing can be said for christianity LOL

Round and round you go which rabbit hole you stop no body knows

 

Christianity shares more than one position on one topic.
And I've already said there are multiple Christian worldviews . . . because there are.

 

Ah thats funny in that case scratch it I only read the punch line and I am getting fatigued flushing you out of one rabbit hole after another