Is Racial Segregation really a human rights Violation?

Discussion in 'Human Rights' started by Anders Hoveland, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. Glock

    Glock Well-Known Member

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    nobody is calling white people racist for celebrating their heritage, they call white people racist for saying they are superior than the other races. It really is not that difficult to try to understand. If some black people think they are superior, then they are racist, if some hispanics think they are superior, then they are racists....etc..
     
  2. MegadethFan

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    What do you mean?

    Umm... no, they havent been. What do you mean by "Jews"? Most prominent supporters, that I can remember, have been Christian or irreligious, in America, that is.

    Your assertion is unfounded.
     
  3. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    This is based upon "racist" mythology.

    Diversity adds to the human experience just like seasoning improves the flavor of food. Salt makes food taste better but eaten alone it doesn't taste very good at all.

    Let's just look at a single aspect of "culture" and ask how many "racists" are willing to give up jazz music, big band music, rock and roll, country rock, which all all based upon the African-American culture in the United States? Are they really willing to listen exclusively "music from the masters" in Europe such as Beethoven and Bach? I love the classical music of Beethoven and Bach but it would be a rather bland diet of music if that was all there was. I like my Led Zeppelin, Eric Clapton, Queen as well as old Robert Johnson and Howlin' Wolf music. I like Benny Goodman, Ella Fitzgerald and Duke Ellington music. How totally bland my musical experience would be without it.

    I love Mexican food and Asian food and it makes my life better because of these culturally inspired dishes. Sorry but I don't want to live on a straight white bread-Miracle Whip diet and I doubt that many "racists" do either. Gimme some of that Southern B-B-Que that was created by African-Americans.

    It is the influences of diversified cultures that really make life truly better for everyone of every culture. Diversity doesn't diminish any culture but instead enhances them all.
     
  4. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    The full on, "there are no differences", "race does not exist", "it's all white people's fault" types have been jews.
    Such as these.
    Jews are people who practice Judaism and who are associated with a racial type. The ideology goes hand in hand with endogamy. It is dishonest to pretend there is no genealogical aspect.
     
  5. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    LOL. By the same argument you should also add some excrement to your food, because "diversity is always good", right?

    Newsflash: you can copy a recipe without opening your borders. God knows everyone else copies us.

    Seriously, you multicultis just want some new types of cous-cous in the shop? That's it? That's your motivation for destroying the economy? Have you ever heard of trade?
     
  6. leftysergeant

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    The culturethat cannot absorb elements of another is too sick to survive.

    And no population that has descendants is extinct. You have nothing.

    Anti-white behavior, my wrinkly white butt. Calling for the extermination of our gene pool would be anti-white. Relegating us to menial carreer fields would be anti-white.

    Denying us the right to set aside whole tracts of land and excluding persons of other races is not anti-white. We aren't entitled to it.
     
  7. leftysergeant

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    Utterly irrational. I will not even voluntarily eat natto or taenjang.

    I will gladly scarf down some ojingo bok um or palbuchae with some kimchi. And let's not forget yakimandu and kimpop.

    There are some amazing restraunts where i live. I just wish that I didn't have to drive 30 miles to find a good Ethioian place.

    So? The people are already here. You lot would, however, try to deny us the right to mingle and compare cooking techniques or enjoy a family meal together. Sick.

    What destroys an ecconomy is allowing massive, tariff-free imports or consigning one class of people to menial tasks for which the investor class feels no obligation to pay a fair wage.

    I really am at a loss to understand how my hard-working Korean wife is damaging the ecconomy or degrading the culture.
     
  8. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    Your side are irrational, because they are claiming diversity is inherently good. It isn't.

    "Good" involves a value judgement on a case by case basis.

    Attacking a strawman. I said we shouldn't open our borders. You attacked "allowing people here to mingle and eat together". You are arguing against yourself, because my actual position is too much for you.

    Attacking another ridiculous strawman. Is your Korean wife (which I in no way condemn you for) the problem I am talking about? You really think so?
     
  9. leftysergeant

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    You probably realize that to the racist mind, we educaterd the blacks to the point where they could create that sort of music. Mikemikew probably thinks white people invented the banjo.

    Anddon't forget gumbo (it is an African word for"okra," which is, of course the same thing from another African language. Mandinge, I thnk.) And jambalya is just a variant on Jollof rice from Senegal.

    Seriously, no civilization worthy of the name ever arose in a location where there were not other ethnic groups to contribute to the cultural evolution of the dominant ethnicity. This is why civilzations arose so quickly along the Nile and across the Fertile Cresent and in China and why all the advanced civilizations in sub-Saharan Africa are on the coastlines or on major river systems.

    Cultural elements are a more valuable trade commodity even than gold and spices.

    This is, of course, why Timbuktu was such an important commercial and intellectual center. Their most important manufactured item in international trade was books.
     
  10. Libhater

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    You have this warped idea that by taking a few of the better traits (which there are very few) of diversity that we as a nation should just blindly walk in a foreign goose step with you by allowing the many pernicious and nation destroying traits of diversity to go unnoticed or unanswered. Mikemikev mentioned one such destructive ideal that you leftists favor, and that's open borders or your advocacy of a 'Dream Act' that basically slaps illegal felons on the wrist and says to them....forget about lining up and waiting to get your legitimate green card--go to the front of the line and don't forget to get your free healthcare including the delivery of of your illegal babies, and don't forget to sign up for your social security and welfare benefits, and if you live in Boston there is this black leftist governor there that has already set up a sanctuary city there for all of your anchor babies and as a bonus he's willing to give you full funding for a college education. Don't worry about searching for a job either, for we as a nation have already reached that stage where there are just as many welfare recipients (non workers) as there are workers these days, and the latest figures tell us that it would make more sense and you would make more money sitting on your ass than to join the workforce by working at McDonalds. So don't worry about a thing, there are still enough tax paying workers left to support your sorry asses for at least another 4 years of an obama administration. After that you may very well be on your own. Oh, we also accept your many wonderful diverse traits of third world significance, such as your ability to inundate us with loads of Acapulco Gold pot and heroin to be sold on any sanctuary street here in America. Where America has less need for doctors and professional people anymore with the onset of obamacare, we welcome your expertise in migrant farming. Mind you, you won't have to do the farming since you'll be better off on welfare, but never fear, I understand we have a whole new crop of unemployed OWS people who may be ripe for the picking to start another work pool in the farming field. :shocked:
     
  11. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    If I wanted to point to any group responsible for destroying the US economy it would be the "white guys" that have always controlled the US Congress. This includes both "conservatives" and "liberals" and is related to over-spending on things like wars and welfare and not taxing the People enough to pay for these expendatures because the taxpayers would demand we stop our foreign interventionism and address the accumulation of personal wealth that includes ending invidious discrimination that is identified as a primary cause of proverty.

    Those that blame the state of the US economy on those that are excluded from that economy by invidious racial discrimination are shooting at the wrong target. Blame the Congress which is overwhelmingly comprised of "white men" and that has done more harm to the US economy that any other entity. Harry Reid and John Boehner are the people leading the destruction of the US economy today.
     
  12. mikemikev

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    Rubbish. The market collapsed because of irresponsible lending to minorities with cries of "racism". The market collapsed after billions were given to "failing" Jewish banks that only ever stole from people in the first place. The endless wars in the Middle East are for purely Jewish interests. Open borders and the collapse of California? Guess who's to blame...
     
  13. satv365

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    This topic is stupid. Anyone anywhere can live wherever they want. Communities in America have existed without incident that where almost entirely ethnically homogenous. South Boston comes to mind, my hometown which was entirely German at one time, East Saint Louis (almost all black).

    It doesn't breed racism or xenophobia. It's just where the cards lay down as various immigrants from across the globe and across the country move around and settle and find jobs etc...

    Forcing acceptance through Government mandates and forced busing has (in the case of South Boston) been counter productive. The School system in Boston tanked after that fiasco, it destroyed an Irish neighborhood for no other reason than politicians using the people as lab rats in a social experiment.

    Also, race is a rather descriptive term for the 3 types humans in the world. Caucasoid, Mongoloid and Negroid. The rest is divided into ethnic subgroups. Race does exist otherwise white couples would have Asian babies, and Black couples would have white babies and so forth. The truth is, it's not anything to be afraid of. You can be hypersensitive all you like and fear the term race, and ethnicity and say it doesn't exist, but it does exist. You can actually tell what race a person is by a drop of his blood or examining his skeleton.

    This notion of race not even existing is childish and intellectually dishonest. Stop being afraid of humanities differences and realize we are not all the same.
     
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    I AGREE, and by the way, I'm "white". I DON'T believe ANY segregation is a good thing because where, when and HOW will you draw the line? If you start dividing "black" people from "white" people then the next thing you start doing is dividing Jews from Christians from Moslems etc, then "able-bodied" people from "handicapped", then "smart" from "dumb" then ugly from beautiful. We already have the rampant economic segregation of RICH from POOR. The ONLY legitimate segregation is CRIMINAL from INNOCENT and that is by incarceration. But that is (supposedly) MERITED segregation; not natural or social segregation.
     
  15. GeorgiaAmy

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    We segregate by choice. All American races or cultures if you prefer choose to. It's just human nature to gravitate toward others like you.
    Do you think voluntary segregation is bad?
     
  16. GeorgiaAmy

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    Eye roll.
    Never on earth have so many blacks experienced the wealth, celebrity, influence, and prosperity they do in America.
    Ample opportunity is there for everyone. They can't be forced to utilize it.

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    They have an entire continent.
     
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    Guess you haven't been to church lately. Churches, communities, private schools, social groups are not very diverse at all. We self segregate by choice.
     
  18. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Equality of economic opportunity does not exist, and has never existed, in the United States for black Americans. Our social, economic, and political institutions in America have always been based upon White (WASP) Male Supremacy and it is those established institutions of America that the "conservative" seeks to retain.

    When the social, economic, and political institutions of America are based upon all of the people, if that day ever comes, then blacks, women, and others in America will have equality and not before. As long as White (WASP) Male Supremacy continiues to control our social, economic, and political institutions there will be no equality and no universal civil rights will exist in America. The stated belief that "all men are created equal" simply doesn't exist and is unlikely to exist for many generations to come in America.
     

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