Is that pork? Alcohol? Sorry, sir, you have to see another cashier.

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by rayznack, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

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    Racist? How is it "racist " ?

    Pls go check the meaning of the word.:roll:


    Cheers, :beer:
     
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    "Racist" is the new blanket term used by anyone stupid enough to vote for Obama upon those who have the sense to disagree with them on any matter whatsoever. Since the fools that believe an employee has a right to dictate to his employer the terms of his employment, based in this case on foolish religious prejudices, are also the fools that voted for Obama, here in the US, the Mayor decided to sling their foolish lingo for a bit. "Marxist Religious Bigot" is such a pain to type all the time.

    That's all.
     
  3. Marlowe

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    I'll tell that to the organist at our local Methodist Church when he plays a Roman Catholic Hymn + v.v.:roll:

    FYI - I'm a non-attending /relaxed /laid back C of E member (wink)

    Our good Lord Dionysus + Church choirs controls my blood pressure , - hic - wot ?

    I hope you can access this :

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03nbmmx/Songs_of_Praise_New_Year_Honours/

    ..,,
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This level of warped religious mindset is to me at least...a new low.


    Congratulations.
     
  5. notme

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    1) its not a muslim thing to preform circumcision on women.



    Also, this is not about who must do what.
    This is a Marks and Spencer policy, not the law.


    And orthodox Jews would be damn happy to be part of this the police of M&S.
     
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    True. They do it to little girls. They're easier to beat up.
     
  8. Riot

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    Why does the left jump when duck dynasty makes comments about gays but never ever dare say anything about Muslims and their beliefs on gays?
    GLAD was calling for Phil to have to take sensitivity training. Why aren't they calling for all Muslims in the untied states to do the same? Hypocrites
     
  9. Stuart Wolfe

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    It's far less likely for a Duck Dynasty fan to strap on an explosives belt and attack someone.
     
  10. Riot

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    Come on left lets hear some war drums for the Muslim believes about gays. Y'all won't cause y'all are hypocrites.
     
  11. notme

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    Female circumcision not only predates the Quran and the bible, it's not even mentioned in those books. It does not happen in strict Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran or Afghanistan. It only happens in Africa or by African immigrants. It's done also by the Christian Copts and Ethiopian Jews. That makes it a cultural ritual. It's mostly used by Christian/Jewish fanatics as propaganda for people with half a brain to demonize mulisims.
     
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    My agenda is clear. But let's back up. The store withdrew its policy admitting it pissed off its customers so clearly the policy was not appreciated by its customers. No the policy was not brought in for a good reason. It was brought in thinking by patronizing intolerant Muslims this would be good for business.

    What's my agenda? Damn clear is it not-to protest anyone who placates intolerance. How is it good policy to expect people to be sensitive to Muslims or anyone else by doing such a stupid thing?

    Let me make it crystal clear.Agenda-to treat everyone the SAME-if you do not want to be treated the same then say so. Say, you want to live ina segregated society with different standards. Me-no. Am I making it an issue you bet.

    I am a minority. I have never asked nor do I expect a separate cash line and separate cashier. If a fellow Jewish person said, he would not handle non kosher meat I would say then what the phack are you doing in a non kosher store if you feel that way?

    No you can not have your cake and eat it. You won't to be intolerant of others but expect them to tolerate your intolerance? Uh no. That is assinine.

    What is my agenda, it aint rocket science, its called the Reform movement of Judaism. We started our approach to Judaism because we found orthodox Judaism and the segregation that comes with it b.s.

    What is my agenda? My agenda is to question all orthodox approaches to religion. They only breed intolerance by institutionalizing intolerance.

    I support anyone anywhere who says treat me fairly not differently.

    What you call good policy is ludicrous. It defies basic common sense and it is everything wrong with this idiotic approach that thinks if you placate a person's selective intolerant views of others, its liberal of you. B.s.

    My agenda? The same agenda I had a few years back when idiots in the provincial Ontario government decided, hey let's allow Muslims to opt out of family law and engage in their own Sharia law.

    These idiots bent over backwords thinking it made them tolerant to tolerate Muslims who did not wish to tolerate Canadian laws regarding family law.

    The government backed down when it realized Sharia law violates the Charter of Rights and and would violate existing provincial laws let alone clash
    with federal family laws.

    Agenda? Yah its to avoid idiocy like this.

    I say it again, this policy is an insult to everyone including Muslims. The Muslims I know do not and have never asked for such patronization.

    You want to try lump me with some others on this forum who have a hard on for Muslims, no thanks. My issue is with fundamentalist religions of any kind including my own that expect differential treatment.
     
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    how happy would the employes be if the shop closed or downsized due to lack of customers. Where I come from happy employes are the ones with jobs and full time hours
     
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    I'm going to build a bacon fence...

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    If you don't like it, (*)(*)(*)(*) off and go judge some other culture.
     

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    In the U.S. we have this little thing called the civil rights act, the retailer does not maintain the right to refuse service based on race, creed, gender etc. and refusing service because I do not eat Halal is a clear violation of my rights, what happens when the store is located in a predominantly Muslim neighborhood and most if not all of the employees are all Muslims?
     
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    That's when you discover that minority rights aren't as popular as they used to be!
     
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    Again, you are drifting. No customer is being denied service. Look, this is quite simple. Let's look at a hypothetical scenario, because it clearly isn't sinking in. A customer approaches the counter of the store and asks a particular member of staff who happens to be Muslim for a bottle of Chardonnay. The member of staff in question then gestures to a fellow worker to grab the bottle of wine and hand it to the customer. If the customer takes exception to having to wait an extra 10 seconds out of his busy schedule, then he is free to shop elsewhere. That's it. End of story.
     
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    A series of red-herrings. First, we are not talking about the US here but the UK. Second, nobody is talking about refusing service. Third, M&S do not employ only Muslims or a majority of Muslims and, finally, they wouldn't, for commercial reasons, locate one of their stores in a predominantly Muslim neighbourhood.
     
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    How is this different than the people who wouldn't make a cake for a gay wedding? Couldn't they get one somewhere else?
     
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    If your religion prevents you from doing your job you need to find another job.
     
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    Precisely. It seems to beyond the bigots to grasp that the issue is one of demographics. Specialist stores exist to cater for the needs of each individual neighbourhood. It's called supply and demand. By definition, within a largely Muslim neighbourhood, there will be stores staffed mainly by Muslims to serve the needs of their specific customer base.
     
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    I'm all for respecting differences but if you can't do the job or separate your job from your personal beliefs then you shouldn't have the job...in a secular society when working in a public situation leave your religion at home...
     
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    Go tell the CEO of one of the UKs largest food and drinks retailers that. I think they know their own business more than you do.
     
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    Another red-herring since the job requirements are not being compromised in this case otherwise M&S would dismiss their Muslim members of staff on the basis that they are not fulfilling the terms and conditions of their contract.
     

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