Is the Burisma-Biden connection depressing support for Biden?

Am wondering if Democrats taking a pass on Biden and supporting, Sanders, Warren, Klobuchar, Yang, and Buttigieg instead are doing so in whole or in part because of suspicions that Hunter Biden got a job on the board of Burma without any evident qualification.

I know what Republicans think about Hunter and Burisma. What do Democrats think?

 

Of course he got a job based on the Biden name. That's normal hiring practice for any corporate board. The board members are there to confer status, not to do anything. Do you think Trump's family gets hired for their qualifications?

However, it's not illegal in any way. And while it might be illegal if Joe Biden had helped that company, he did the opposite. He hurt that company. Thus, anyone saying something illegal was done is clearly not in touch with reality.

 

In part it's because they KNOW that Joe practiced Quid Pro Quo with the Ukrainians and that the Bidens are now being investigated for just that in the Senate; but I think that more than that, honest people can see that Biden's mind is slipping. He's lashing out at voters in his own political side at his minuscule rallies and he's forgetting the point of his prepared speeches and then getting angry. Regardless of how great the MSM has said Biden is, people can see and hear . . . differently.

 

No, Joe just hasn't performed well. And he seems confused at times.

 

Hard to say until Super Tuesday.

If he dramatically underperforms on March 3rd, he is probably done.

But, until then, the jury is still out.

 

I'm republican so my opinion is biased, but my very liberal parents think he too old acting and not genuinely enthusiastic.

 

Probably most leftists able to think for themselves agree with that assessment, since it's simply common sense based on both what one sees and hears of Biden. Unfortunately most leftists seem too cowed by peer pressure to admit that Emperor Biden has got no clothes.

It's similar to 2016 when it was freaking obvious to anyone with functioning eyes and brain cells that Hillary was too physically ill to run a good presidential campaign but because the MSM frantically denied what people could SEE happening before their eyes it never officially became a campaign issue.

 

Did I ask you that?

 

I am not asking how or why Hunter got on the board. I am not asking if it was legal either. I don't even care.

I am asking if you Democrats are supporting Sanders/Warren etc. over Biden because of the Burisma deal with Hunter bothers you.

Alternatively stated, might you have supported Biden but for the Burisma deal?

 

Nope. Not having anything valuable to say is.

 

A better question: Is Biden's history of corruption a problem for him in the primaries?


yes would be the answer.

 

No, we're supporting other candidates because Biden is an out-of-touch old fart. I mean, he actually thinks the Republicans will start being loyal Americans again once Trump is gone. You can't get more delusional than that.

What Burisma "deal"? Be specific with your conspiracy theory.

 

Boardroom positions of major companies are NOT just honorariums, they make the major decisions of the corporation and oversees top management and set the direction of the company and where it will invest it's assets. Their members must be well versed and qualified for those seats in order to make those decisions unless of course it is for some political connection. Some are controlling stockholders. At least Hillary Clinton was a lawyer although not a very good one when she was put on the board of Walmart, she was also the wife of the Governor. Hunter Biden brought NOTHING but political connections here.

 

Gee, I don't know. I heard some crazy story on the news that his son got a cushy job with a Ukrainian energy company, doing nothing for a half million dollars. That's "the deal" (money for nothin' and your chicks for free) that I am referring to. But I'm sure the story is an outrageous fabrication. I mean, who would do that?

 

"Is" what?

 

Depressing support for Biden.

 

Do you have any evidence that Joe Biden arranged it?

No?

Then you have zero evidence of any "deal". You just made up a story about a "deal".

Anyways, are you concerned about similar "deals" concerning the Trump children? Does such corruption (by your standards) make you less supportive of Trump?

 

This thread is about whether Junior's job with Burisma bothers Democrats, not about anything else. I would not vote for a Democrat regardless of how clean they were. So I don't even care.

I don't think Joe Biden arranged the job, no. But if it doesn't strike you as suspect, then we have different values. If I had been Biden, I would have told my son to resign because of the appearance of impropriety BEFORE it made the news, not a year after he sucked on Burisma's teat. Literally no one at this point, except you, thinks that it looked good. That's why he resigned, so don't give me the "Problem? What problem??" line. Corruption works gradually.

 

Is the Burisma-Biden connection depressing support for Biden?

Maybe but basically Biden is depressing his own support.

 

I don't think so. I think Joe is suppressing support for Biden. Calling a woman voter a "lying dog face pony solider" isn't how one motivates prospective supporters. Grabbing them by the collar isn't either. I think the guy is just an eternal gaffe machine.

 

Fake Don's desperate smear would be a factor if the Trump regime, Ukraine, China, or anyone else Fake Don pleaded with to smear Biden, had been able to contrive any actual charges.

As yet another of Fake Don's lies, no rational person has any reason to indulge him.

 

It sure looks senile joe 30330 arranged the hiring. It deserves a thorough investigation as the accusations are quite troubling.

Myth: There is no evidence Vice President Joe Biden did anything to encourage Burisma’s hiring of his son Hunter.

The Facts: This is another area where the public facts cry out for more investigation and raise a question in some minds about another appearance of a conflict of interest.

Hunter Biden’s business partner, Devon Archer, was appointed to Burisma’s board in mid-April 2014 and the firm Rosemont Seneca Bohai — jointly owned by Hunter Biden and Devon Archer — received its first payments from the Ukrainian gas company on April 15, 2014, according to the company’s ledgers. That very same day as the first Burisma payment, Devon Archer met with Joe Biden at the White House, according to White House visitor logs. It is not known what the two discussed.

A week later, Joe Biden traveled to Ukraine and met with then-Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk. During that meeting, the American vice president urged Ukraine to ramp up energy production to free itself from its Russian natural gas dependence. Biden even boasted that “an American team is currently in the region working with Ukraine and its neighbors to increase Ukraine’s short-term energy supply.” Yatsenyuk welcomed the help from American “investors” in modernizing natural gas supply lines in Ukraine.

Less than three weeks later, Burisma added Hunter Biden to its board to join Archer. To some, the sequence of events creates the appearance that Joe Biden’s pressure to increase Ukrainian gas supply and to urge Kiev to rely on Americans might have led Burisma to hire his son. More investigation needs to be done to determine exactly what happened. And until that occurs, the appearance issue will likely linger over this episode.

More ...
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story

 

You're actually quoting paid Trump propagandist John Solomon? Wow. Just wow. But then, the cult did tell you to believe it, so what choice did you have?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...uliani-john-solomon-ukraine-impeachment-trump

You know how we know the story is BS? By the complete lack of any investigation. Trump can't have an actual investigation, because it would show how corrupt he's been. So instead, we'll just get this kind of sleaze campaign. It will be the same with all of his opponents.

And you fell for it.

Go on, explain. If the evidence is supposedly so damning, why isn't there any official investigation? This should be funny.

 

No. Biden's problem is that he is showing his age at the debates. His answers are not clear and he isn't making himself a distinct candidate - he's just trying to live off the Obama connection.