Is the left attempting to destroy America as we know it?

RenewedRight.com--a conservative website--recently said, in part, the following:

"Destroying respect for the founding fathers is the first step toward destroying their legacy of freedom and ushering in the left-wing utopia CNN and the radical leftists want.

But to the left, nothing less than completely purging the founders from public memory will suffice.

Tucker Carlson summed it up by saying:

"If these men were simply racist villains, and that’s all they were, then the society they created is as evil as they were. There is no reason to respect its traditions or uphold its laws.
….

"There is actually a vitally important debate going on in the country right now. And it’s not about statues or even the alt-left antifa, it’s about American institutions and whether they are worth preserving.

"Radicals on the left want to tear it all down as they did the statue in Durham Tuesday.

"Equality under the law.

"Protections for the individual against the mob.

"The absolute right to say and believe anything you choose.

"Those will be gone. Replaced by something darker and more rigidly conformist.

"Is that a country you want to live in?

"If it’s not, now is the time to speak up. elites are refusing to. They are too afraid."

Here is the link: https://renewedright.com/wont-believe-top-cnn-official-saying-founding-fathers/

 

Meanwhile blue leftists state like NY & CA are the most segregated in the country.

Maybe practice what you preach so you don't look like a hypocritical asshat next time leftists.

 

Robert E Lee was not a Founding Father, but a traitor. Also, "the absolute right to say anything you choose" does not exist, try shouting fire in a theatre. Otherwise, I'm in.

 

Yes. Next question.

 

Nothing says "I love America" like a bunch of NAZI and Confederate flags...

 

Halfwit Tucker equating confederate traitors with the founding fathers

 

LOL!

 

Just because a random person named Johnita Due is saying something doesn't mean every liberal believes it.

 

How else would a MORON like him keep up his ratings?

Answer to the OP? Obviously NO.

The only groups trying to "Destroy America" are Trump's Cronies (led by the IMBECILE-in-Chief).

 

Moving a statue from it's outdoor location to another is hardly the end of the world. It's not the end of history.

Over-the-top rhetoric (such as that in your link) is more a threat to society than relocation of statuary.

 

Actually the Left has a point:

Like their monuments, the Democratic Party must be dismantled

There is no larger monument to racism and violence in our history than the Democratic Party.

 

I posted this a few times. I posted this at another site, one when I was less constricted from my PC, so it's unusually long, considering my posts here.

It applies here.


The Progressive Assault on America.

The Left has understood that they are waging a social war for control since the beginning, and the Left has moved accordingly. Education was their first target: control education and you control the ideas that shape peoples' thinking from an early age. Encourage lefties who want to 'make a difference' to go into teaching, get onto school boards, attend PTA meetings, and continue to demand that leftist narratives be taught. Move up into colleges and universities, where the real activism heats up among students old enough to act independently from their parents. Educate tomorrow's leaders: professors, mayors, judges, lawyers, politicians, civil service managers, diplomats, city councilmen, so that your values translate into policy.

Next stage, educate the business people who will buy up the media outlets so that what people hear will be your viewpoint. Shape the conversation. Highlight your concerns while ignoring opposing viewpoints (or better yet, misrepresent opposing viewpoints to discredit them). Define the terms so that the very words used to discuss the issues are loaded to favor your viewpoint. People can't be there in one hundred thousand different places to witness what actually is happening....they only know what you tell them, so what actually happens becomes what you say happened.

That strategy has born fruit, and now it's on to the next stage: attack your opponents in the streets. Shoot cops. Riot, loot, and burn. Assault counterdemonstrators. Ban dissident speakers. Get opponents fired by outing them to employers (some of whom are fellow Lefties). Assault people wearing the wrong messages on t-shirts and signs. Steal campaign signs. Show up at polling places with armed thugs to ensure "social justice".

Sounds 'extreme', but it's been going on for a couple years now. What's next? Some bottom of the barrel disturbed malcontent is going to commit mass murder at one of these rallies. This will cross the line separating fisticuffs from civil war. If a firearm is used, the Left will use the occasion to call for gun control/registration/confiscation, and if a bomb is used government will step up intrusive procedures to head off more from going off. And we will step a few more steps down the ladder towards a shooting civil war between political factions.

Read Bill Ayers. Read Lenin and Trotsky. Read the histories of the Russian and Chinese Revolutions. It's all there. We're not 'having a dialog', we're in an ideological war. We're playing for all the marbles, and any rule you can get away with breaking is no rule at all.

 

This is paranoid thinking. The left is not destroying America as we know it. They weren't during the days of Bill Clinton, nor were they during the days of Barack Obama. Trump has already given China the opportunity to officially become the worlds economic superpower through withdrawal from the TPP. Let's remember what progressivism means, "The bettering of the human condition through social, economic, environmental and political means." That is different from liberalism, which is what is imploding. Taking down monuments of slave-owning individuals is not disrespecting the Founding Fathers. In fact, I'd be willing to believe George Washington would be disgusted by Trump. People like David Duke are simply racist villains, but also are connected to a larger virus in America. The white nationalist and supremacy movements.

 

I don't know what's more ignorant - the fact that Tucker Carlson doesn't realize that Robert E. Lee wasn't a founding father, or the fact that people actually thrive on this paranoid hysteria that is being pushed in this OP. These are statues we're talking about. I love the history of the statues, but the destruction of the country, equal opportunity, dark things....? Good ****ing grief.

 

(1) Of course Robert E. Lee was not among the Founding Fathers. But to claim that he was a "traitor" is to misunderstand history. (At the time of the Civil War, America was simply a loose confederation of states--it is my understanding, in fact, that people typically said, "the Untied States are," rather than "the United States is"--and Lee valued his state above the "United States" as a whole. In fact, he apparently spoke of his "country of Virginia" rather frequently.)

(2) The SCOTUS has ruled, indeed, that no one has the right to shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater. But to extrapolate from that that one cannot hold to opinions that are "politically incorrect"--and even promulgate them--is not exactly what the High Court meant...

 

Maybe you shouldn't just make **** up.

 

The article never mentioned Johnita Due.

And neither did I.

But more to the point: What is your view of the Founders (including the many who owned slaves)?

 

I will take that as mere litotes (as it surely is not a literal analysis).

But moving it--and even toppling a statue (as in Durham, North Carolina)--is an obvious attempt to appease the enraged left; and this, I find thoroughly distasteful...

(By the way, you might want to learn the difference between the preposition, its, and the contraction, it's...)

 

seems like it's the right like Trump that is attempting to destroy America as we know it?

Trump says many stupid things, no one stopping him... now if you mean no one should be allowed to question him, no, that will never happen

heck Trump just repeated a whopper of a lie about killing Muslims with pigs plug, he had every right to say it... we have every right to say fake news from the President, Trump was trying to re-write history

 

Suck it up snowflakes..Grow a set of gonads... Life was entirely different 150+ years ago with a different set of morals, customs and accepted behavior. The world outside your narrow world view is full of people and nations that don't give a rats arse about your 'feelings'.

Been listening to this since the early 60's and things haven't changed much. other than the black family falling apart. SSDD for 50+ years...

 

This thread is really not about Donald Trump--or any trade agreement--as much as you might wish it to be.

If that is what you want to discuss, then please start your own thread.

Actually, no.

Dictionary.com defines "progressive" as: "favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters. [Bold added]

In other words, it is the exact opposite of conservatism.

I agree with your characterization of David Duke.

But not as regarding the rest of America.

By the way: Do you consider yourself to be morally superior to most other Americans? (I am guessing that you will not answer this.)

 

Yes. They will regret it.

 

Is the left attempting to destroy America as we know it?



YES !!!!!

 

Where's the anger toward La Raza, the New Black Panthers, the Nation of Islam and other leftist hate groups...

 

Remember all the times that the right-wing go its panties in a bunch because such-and-such politician neglected to wear a flag lapel pin.

And now we have these same patriotic charlatans supporting **** like this:



MAGA? By supporting an ideology anathema to American values and a symbol of an uprising against the USA?

Deplorable. Hillary Clinton was totally correct about Trump supporters. It's a shame more people didn't see past the alt-right rhetoric and propaganda to see the truth of the matter. Will the alt-right be able to fool America again?