Is "The Lindsey Graham Defense" the best Trump loyalists can come up with?

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  1. MolonLabe2009

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    Not really, but to your defense I'll give you the "I know you are but what am I" rebuttal :)
     
  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You can say that over and over, but it's not going to keep Trump out of prison.... or in power. Reality or not, it's what Americans will see and hear as of Wednesday next week. And if you don't have a better argument than screaming "nonreality" at the top of your lungs, there won't be much hope for the guy.
     
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    Oh God! Read the OP!
     
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    Well that coin has two sides, you can claim all you like and doesn't mean he will do a day of jail time.. And if logic was something the left found important, they might realize the odds of a President spending a day in jail let alone a prison is almost the same percentage as Warrens Indian DNA :)

    You are making me think the contrary Sir LOLOL
     
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    Right!!! That's what I've been... basically begging you guys for. The other side of the coin.

    The evidence against Trump is coming out at an average of one to two confirming witnesses per day. And the only thing the right can come up with in his defense is....

    ...attacking....Elizabeth Warren?????

    Are you kidding me?

    Man! I see no hope for your guy.... Isn't Hannity or ingram or .... somebody on the right saying something... anything... that rebuts the actual accusations? Because these are the accusations the American People are going to be hearing. And if the Fox Echo Chamber can't even come up with a defense... I don't know what to tell ya....
     
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    "Trump is too stupid" to engage in this crime?

    Is that the best you can do Lindsey?
     
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    What conformation? Hearsay, you guys actually think Senate is going to convict because of a bunch "I HEAR TINGS"? And you, a career political debater..
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No! First hand accounts!!!!

    This is about the right time to take some time off from the right-wingnut nonsense, and watch some real news for a change. Fox has got you guys so absolutely uninformed that .. it's actually scary.
     
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    LOL, first hand accounts, tell us Golem, like standing by an open door, the cleaning lady heard TINGS... ya you got this debate stuff all dialed in, it's the logic part you are in need of practice in :)

    BTW, for the tenth time at least, I don't watch fox, I watch Newsy on the firestick/Pluto tv..
     
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    Lindsay never said that.

    Your quote is fake.
     
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    I mentioned who they are...
     
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    They’ll attempt to separate the President from the conspiracy and implicate those on the ground: Giuliani, Mulvaney, Sondland.

    It’s a hard sell but their options are limited and they need to find someone that won’t come off as nutty and deranged as Graham, Kennedy, Gomert, Jordan, et al to deliver the defense on national television. The later will be the toughest task. A good trial attorney can accomplish the feat of muddying the waters.

    Please note, Chief Justice Roberts is the wild card here if it goes to trial( the Senate). He’s got more power in this equation than McConnell.
     
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    A lot of people enjoy fiction. Hannity gets all his information from the fever swamp fiction writers. Now he’s on the Chalupa, Enchalada, Tostada tour. One of our members has been spamming our forum all day with this crap. Chalupa is the woman that outed Putin Stooge in Ukraine and money launderer for the Russian outfit, Paul Manafort. She is hated by the Trumpists because she made the original link between the Trump campaign and Russian criminals and spies.

    Hannity never mentioned anything about Rudy’s association with the 2 Russian Mob associates who were over in Ukraine subverting our Ambassador by trashing her to Ukranian officials behind her back. When these two birds were arrested they were on their way to Austria where Dmytri Firtash, High level Russian Mob associate and fugitive from US justice presently out on $100 million bail fighting extradition to US on bribery and extortion charges.

    Rudy, imbecile that he is accidentally butt dialed a reporter who he thought was Parnov and left a long message telling him he needed $200K more. Evidently according to Parnov banking records Guiliani had already been paid $500K by Parnov which evidently comes from Firtash who embezzled billions from Ukraine before fleeing to Vienna. Firtash has just retained Fox News TV lawyers Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing who have been trashing Marie Yovonovitch on Hannity for months. Rudy has really got some splainin to do here.

    Guiliani claims that he is working for Trump and the State Department but it appears that he is being paid by Russian outfit guys. What’s up with that? Several US investigators and dozens of credible US and British reporters are looking deeply into this deal. It would not surprise me to see Rudy frog marched out of his house or office like Cohen within the next couple weeks as Parnov is talking to US Attorneys, FBI and House impeachment investigators right now.
     
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    They weren't eyewitnesses and said so.
     
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    The evidence against Trump is falling apart as fast as it hits the floor.
     
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    Ignoring and denying the evidence has no such effect on it.

    Lindsey Graham has demonstrated that he would defend Trump if he shot someone at this point. Congressional Republicans have become a complete joke and as great a shame on this country as the so-called president himself.
     
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    BS your evidence is a but load of options by people who mostly were even on the phone call. Hell Taylor says even says that the Ukrainians didn't even know about the hold on the funding until two days after the phone call. Makes a quid pro quo regarding the funding in the phone call problematic at best .
     
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    Ear witnesses.
     
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    Does Trump really need to defend himself over nothing? This just make democrats look like complete idiots. Everyone admitted that Trump's Ukrainian policy was a substantial improvement on Obama's adminstration policies.

    Testimony: How Trump helped Ukraine

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/testimony-how-trump-helped-ukraine

    Was it a substantial improvement?"

    "It was a substantial improvement, in that this administration provided Javelin anti-tank weapons," Taylor explained. The shoulder-fired missiles, he said, "successfully deter Russians from trying to grab more territory."....

    "Despite Yovanovitch's advocacy, that aid never came from Obama. From Trump, it did. Amid all the accusations flying around in the Democratic impeachment campaign, it's important to remember that basic fact."
     
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    I'm also a witness cuz I saw the transcript. Nothing happened. These people are just **** disturbers.
     
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    Misquoting to prove a point. What Lindsey Graham said was "
    I’m Not Reading These Democratic Impeachment Transcripts"
     
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    Or that he is not credible.
     

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