Is "The Lindsey Graham Defense" the best Trump loyalists can come up with?

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    This may be news to you, but people are giving depositions in Congress just about every day. And we have transcripts, statements, ... And none of them is the cleaning lady, I'm afraid.

    Get informed! Doesn't Trump deserve a proper defense? He's not going to get it if his supporters remain uninformed.

    It's interesting that we're the ones defending Trump's rights now. And the right just ... threw their hands in the air and embraced the "Lindsey Graham Defense". Which might help Lindsey Graham... but not Trump.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    There are both republicans and emocrats in the "swamp." Graham is one of them. He talks but does nothing.
     
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    You just can't seem to help yourself. Misquoting. The lindsey Graham defense is to not read DEMOCRATIC transcripts because he considers them unreliable.
     
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    LOL! Releasing partial and edited transcripts in an attempt to damage the President is now, on the left, considered "defending" rights. :roll:

    Since the transcripts are edited, why bother? Besides ignoring "evidence" is ZACKLY what the party of personal destruction senators did during the clinton impeachment trial. They all refused to review any of the mountains of evidence, and it worked for them. So, don't be so hard on Graham.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What quote?

    Nowhere have I claimed to quote Lindsey Graham. You make a false accusation only because of lacking in your reading comprehension abilities. I already asked you before: what country are you from?
     
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    Yes and hardly anything as historical as impeachment! But if it gives you some peace of mind, then by all means you continue to believe hearsay will be the magic bullet that removes a sitting President..

    The funny thing is most EVER leftist on the site are convinced of Government corruption but haven't the common sense to understand that, that same corruption will most likely be the reason Trump will not be impeached :)
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    My God! What "quote" are you talking about? There are no quotes, or claims of quotes anywhere in my post!

    Another false accusation that you will not even bother to substantiate or retract. So just... go away....
     
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    Is the best defense libralz can come up with is people testifying about a phone call that they weren't even a part of.
    That's very amusing. I can't wait to feast on the liberal tears when this all backfires.
    I don't think I'll ever be thirsty again.
     
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    Latest news now is Zelensky was prepared to announce a public investigation into the Bidens, but changed his mind when the aid was finally released.

    Hmmm...
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    True that there are on both sides. But, I'll be honest, up until now I never considered Graham to be one of them. He can still pull out. But every day the probability looks more distant. Disappointing! For years I had used Graham as one of the examples to show that, though Republicans are usually wrong, they are not all dishonest. As I have said many times: everything that Trump touches turns into crap.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you are claiming that when all those witnesses say that Trump demanded dirt on Biden in exchange for releasing the funds, the word "didn't" was edited out of the transcript. Despite the fact that not a single one of the Republicans who were present during the testimony have said that. And despite the fact that when these witnesses appear live on TV, they would then have the ability to throw the whole case down publicly by pointing out such "editing"

    Nonsense like this is not going to save Trump. And it might be comforting to the Trump Cult, but it's not going to convince a single America. So you need to start looking for a real argument, if you expect to be taken seriously

    I seem to remember that there were rational Republicans on this forum who were on Trump's side. Where did they go? I'm sure they can give a sensible argument. If they don't come forward and instead just leave Trump's defense to the amateurs, we will have to conclude that no defense exists
     
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    So more evidence that there was never any quid pro quo.
     
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    Since there exists not a shred of first hand evidence for that and the people saying so weren't in on the call the only reason to believe any of it is Trump hate. The used to be rational leftist on the board sadly since the election of Trump most seem to have become increasingly irrational and more than a bit desperate grasping at almost any straw however ill founded or unsupported it might be to achieve there dream of overturning the last election and restoring to themselves the notion of their own inevitability once again.
     
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    Looks like quotes to me "I will not read the evidence, therefore, Trump is innocent".. Looks like you owe me an apology.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Great! Then you have nothing to worry about. Never mind the testimony of first hand wittiness that will be on TV starting next week. No need to worry that they will sway the opinion of the American people even further against Trump. You can go to bed and rest easy.... and not wake up until Christmas. And even then, there's no need to look up if Trump's popularity has changed.

    Good night!
     
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    The following quote. Where did you get it from?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    It doesn't. I believe it's in 4th or 5th Grade they teach you what direct quotes look like.
     
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    As usual concern for what people say rather than what they do. Trump does a lot. Graham just talks.
     
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    Then you should have learned it. Those are quotation makrs.
     
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    Do you think he will decline like all the Trump boys?
     
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    I'm sure he would come if Trump did.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What are you talking about? That's not a direct quote. Read the OP!
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    And you thought that the only use for quotation marks was direct literal quotes.

    Well... as it usually happens in your discussions with me, you learn something (that that's not the case) and I just waste my time.
     
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    I did read the OP. You said those were not quotations marks. They are quotations marks.
    I don't care whether you call what you wrote a quotation or a characterization. In either case, it does not reflect what Graham said. It was dishonesty or stupidity on your part. Take your pick. Either works for me.
     
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    Point to the message where I said that or retract...

    Or don't (of course, you won't). You waste too much of my time.
     

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