Is the Right aware of how illegal immigrants benefit this country?

Illegal immigrants pay SS, and taxes. The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy estimates illegal immigrants pay about $11.7 billion a year in state and local taxes https://itep.org/wp-content/uploads...-Immigrants-State-and-Local-Contributions.pdf

Most illegal immigrants don't file tax returns. Even so, the IRS estimates that they pay $9 billion per year in payroll taxes https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/20-Immigration and Taxation.pdf There is probably a more up to date study, but in 2013, according to the Social Security Administraton, they contributed 13 billion to Social Security .https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/pdf_notes/note151.pdf And keep in mind that the large majority, by far, never obtain Social Security benefits.

The increase in GDP that they produce has been well documented for quite some time
http://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.ed...-raise-act-effect-on-economic-growth-and-jobs
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/bus...financial-success-owes-lot-immigrants-n714206
https://www.oecd.org/migration/OECD Migration Policy Debates Numero 2.pdf

As well as the fact that it does not produce job displacement.
https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Publication Files/09-013_15702a45-fbc3-44d7-be52-477123ee58d0.pdf

According to a study by the National Bureau of Economic Research, if we were to lose the whole section of the population composed of illegal immigrants, the cost to the economy would be $5 Trillion over 10 years. https://www.nber.org/papers/w22102.pdf

Now I'm wondering, is the extreme right hate for immigrants a result of them not understanding how good immigration is to our economy?

 

Maybe you're right. When they bring back my friends they have killed, I will welcome them with open arms.

I guess drugs are smuggled in by "legal" immigrants?

How many illegals are living on our tax dollars in prison and how much have they cost Americans by committing their crimes?

How much do ESL programs cost us in public schools?

How many diseases are brought over our Southern border?

How much money is sent out of the country in remittances and no tax revenue is generated from this money?

You're missing a few items in your calculations.

 

Does that apply to the white supremacists who have killed so many thousands in acts of terrorism?

Fact is that crime rates among illegal immigrants are faaar below the general population. And not even on the radar, if compared to White Supremacists.

Oh... I see. You just wanted to repeat a Trump speech as if it were real. Sorry to be the one to break it to you but... Trump lies!

Amazing there are still people who believe him.

My post has facts, and references that are the basis for those facts. Your post has... right-wing talking points.

 

Where is the line? Surely you dont want legit anyone who wants to come to come, fly cargo planes to every third world airport and ferry back and forth for months.

So there has to be SOME sort of limit. Presumably you think it should be higher than it is?

Moreover, what happens to these poor nations when we skim their 10% brightest?

 

They're a net negative.

Sorry, but no. Just keep your illegals on the other side of the border. I know you don't want that because they represent votes for more government dependents, just like democrats, but no.

Just no.

This is why democrats are all about more taxes. They are shameful in how badly they want votes and more taxes. They demand more taxes because they know their votes come from people dependent upon the government.

 

Sure. They do crap jobs, for low pay without complaint... so they can have money to pay their debts to cartels.

 

I don't know what the limit should be. And I wouldn't want to derail my own thread by getting into that. My point was simply to point out the benefits.

They are motivated to produce more.

 

Sounds like democrats are trying to explain why exploiting illegal immigrants is a good thing.

 

They do the jobs Americans won't do for slave wages

 

"Now I'm wondering, is the extreme right hate for immigrants a result of them not understanding how good immigration is to our economy?"

Oh, just stop with your fake-assed, bullshit narrative.

Why do you want to ensure a continued supply of illegal aliens?

 

Because they believe illegal immigrants are better than Americans. They are trying to import their followers who will help them take America down

 

Your post has biased sources with incomplete information. You conveniently ignored most of my original response because you know it's true, even if unsubstantiated. You focus on the "positives" of immigrants and ignore all of the negatives.

 

You know, I shouldn't lose my temper like that, but can't they ever approach an issue honestly? It's one clown show after another.

Why do they prefer illegal aliens to legal immigrants? The only reason, that makes sense to me, is it's just another vector of attack on the country.

 

The benefits of legal immigrants far outweigh the benefits of illegal immigrants. Legal immigrants also have far fewer detriments per capita. Illegal immigrant detriments more than cancel out their benefits.

 

Until you understand that globalist democrats hate America and want to fundamentally transform it into a global socialist police state, none of their actions will make sense. Flooding America with unregulated illegal immigrants and making Americans pay for their welfare and health care is part of bankrupting our nation and tearing it down.

 

Al Gore summed up their position best, in his 1988 book "Earth in the Balance", when he wrote that the primary impediment to human advancement is the Judeo-Christian world view. Ultimately, what they are struggling against is humanity multiplying, filling Earth and subduing it. They consider that to be unnatural. They see that as THE problem from which all other problems emanate. They tolerate islam as a sort of chemotherapy because it is antagonistic with the primary defender of the Judeo-Christian world view, the United States of America.

 

Illegal immigration is a net loss as a whole since the presence of illegals is raising the cost of policing, not only by the crimes they commit, but also because an illegal immigrant is a criminal by default. Furthermore, they cause to polarise society by causing debstes like this one.

PS. GDP is a joke.

 

They are aware. Just like they were aware that gays would one day have the right to marry. Just like they knew that the majority of Americans support the right to choose. They just need a wedge issue to distract the country while they line their pockets.

 

Maybe the extreme left isn't smart enough to figure out that when millions of uneducated, illiterate people flood our welfare systems that it's a net drain? 1 in 5 kids in Texas schools can't even speak English.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/21/mass-immigration-costs-govt-296-billion-year-natio/

 

I didn't read this report. I'm just posting it to show that there such a thing as an effort to control tuberculosis along the border.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5001a1.htm

 

Guys, please bookmark this thread for when progressives claim they don't support illegal immigration or open borders.

 

Your problem is that you assume Democrats see that as a problem=) Forcing English on people is the problem, not the fact they can't speak it, hehe. Its wrong you see to expect immigrants, legal or otherwise to learn the native language, much less FORCE them to adapt to anything. The costs of bilingual education and the extra costs to businesses is also a hard to quantify net loss. Having to make space for Spanish along side English on food labels has extra costs. Spanish signs. Spanish legal documentation. Spanish tests. These are all MASSIVE costs that most people don't even take into account.

The negative effect on our culture is only the beginning. I can walk into stores in Miami and be frowned upon if I actually spoke English. Its THAT bad. Its like, "who are YOU?" Don't you know where you are?". You're a stranger in your own backyard. VERY sad.

 

If they're paying taxes, they're doing it with stolen documents that are ruining people's lives. That's not a benefit to the US.

In terms of federal taxes, they pay $1 billion and receive $5 billion in refunds. That's not a benefit to the US.

In terms of crime, they commit hundreds of thousands of additional crimes. That's not a benefit to the US.

In terms of welfare, the vast majority of them are here on our dime. We pay to educate their children and for them to live. That's not a benefit to the US.

Tell us more about how you're behind human trafficking though.

 

Great example of propaganda. The wealthy want to keep their cheap labor and dems want the votes. That is the bottom line. Claiming the benefits out weigh the drawbacks is an outright lie.

 

List the "white supremacist" attacks that have killed thousands.