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Is the vaccine taking the same road as the Covid tests?

Discussion in 'Coronavirus Pandemic Discussions' started by ronv, Dec 29, 2020.

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  1. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    The Trump administration promised 20 million vaccinations by year end.

    “We plan to have enough vaccine doses available for use in the U.S. population to immunize about 20 million individuals in the month of December and another 25 to 30 million per month on an ongoing bases from there on,” Slaoui said Nov. 13.


    Trump often promised 100 million doses available by year end, but alas here we are with only about 11 million doses shipped and a couple of million vaccinated.
    Did we ignore what the states could do or is the whole thing another fiasco?
     
    ronv, Dec 29, 2020
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Wait until after Jan 20 from all accounts Biden has already spoken with the states
     
    Bowerbird, Dec 29, 2020
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Covid started early this year and we already have mass distribution of a vaccine. That is still a big deal.
     
    Matthewthf, Dec 29, 2020
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The PCR tests as they are being used and the vaccine have two things in common: they are frauds and they are profitable to the manufacturers.
     
    Eleuthera, Dec 30, 2020
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  5. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    A broken clock is right twice a day, but a broken record is never quite right.
     
    ronv, Dec 30, 2020
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    Correct, everyone will automatically have the vaccine as soon as he is sworn into office.

    Hey how is that H1N1 vaccine that Obama has been working on coming along?

    lol
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    After starting in April the H1N1 was in the arms of all the school children by now.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    How dare private companies profit from their products!

    BTW, are you promoting communism? Or are you just trying to derail all the threads with your conspiracy theories?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't think that everybody will have the vaccine. But what we will have is real trustworthy information as to when to expect it. Instead of a President attacking his own experts every time they try to tell us what Science shows.

    H1N1 is a clear example of how a pandemic can be handled properly so as not to cause hundreds of thousands of dead, thousands of businesses shut down, and a double-dip recession... even without a vaccine.
     
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    Warp speed turns out to be dwarf speed.
     
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    politicians and bureaucrats not a virus caused the shutdowns and recessions
     
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    You can have my dose. I won't be taking it.
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? What exactly did Obama do that you consider "handled properly" that you would like to have seen Trump do.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Of course! That's what I said. Politicians like Florida governor: DeSantis. But, mostly, Trump. Who chose to put his political interest before actions to control the virus, that would have avoided these recessions and shutdowns.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not lie...
     
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    Politicians and bureaucrats who mandated shutdowns are responsible for shutdowns.

    A couple hundred K, mostly elderly deaths isnt a pimple on the ass of an economy
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you can't answer my question, just say so. That's not an answer relevant to the statement you made.
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    That is the answer.
    Trump lied, people died.
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How so?
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How does Trump stating percentages wrong equate to the deaths of a global pandemic?

    If he would've said the proper statistics, people would not have died?
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Yep.
    People could have been more careful.
     
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    The issue is that Trump stated to the public "COVID was not serious", "younger people are immune", "its COVID is not as badly as even the worst flu's", and much more, while he was privately saying it was worse, deadly to young people, "more deadly than the flu", erc.

    Your claim it was a statistical error as he did little is not a "mistake", it was murder, and your attempts to cover this as simply a "statistical error" is making Trump apologists utterly morally bankrupt.
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It wasn't murder, what a ridiculous statement to make. He didn't want to panic people obviously but I don't know of anyone who didn't know what it was or thought it was safer than the flu. You and others are just looking for something to blame Trump for. It's a global pandemic and there is a death toll. Saying Trump murdered people is just another orange man bad attempt.

    And to follow, Trump NEVER said covid wasn't serious. And young people are mostly fine with it, very rare occurrence where young people are dying from it. That doesn't equate to no young person will ever be affected, but for the most part, they will be fine.
     
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