Is there anything liberals like about America?

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  1. Voltamp

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    Can I get some specific examples of things I might be ignorant of when it comes to bigotry?
     
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    "Yes" to all 3 of those.
     
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    Nice try and twist ...
     
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    The fact that you tried to pass off your being racist as someone else's fault definitely qualifies.
     
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    In order to efficiently communicate perhaps you can first explain to me the foundation and substance of your own bigotry. that way I have no doubt that I can provide you with a substantive list.
     
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    Man, I miss the good old days.....
     
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    I truly enjoy history. From Alexander the Great to contemporary persons, I came to enjoy history. Thus I have both the American and battle flag of the confederates. I have not located the flag that represented the confederacy. My plan is to pass along to my heirs mementos they may never later on locate.

    I mourn the war of Abe Lincoln. I realize had he refused to invade VA, that war never could have happened. Think about that. Had Abe cooled his jets and not invaded VA, 630,000 Americans on both sides could have lived with their family. This is not chicken feed.

    Had the South invaded rather than Abe invade, I would be on Abe's side. PS. I have also studied some of the ancient history of China that dates back to around 5000 years so I enjoy all of it.
     
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    Total revisionist nonsense. Yes, slaves were probably treated better by white slaveholders than black slaveholders, but as my dad used to say, dogshit is better than catshit, but that doesn't make it a good thing.

    As an American, there is little I can contemplate that would be worse than being a slave. Liberty is extremely important to me.
     
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    That and Abe by invading VA and then other states, directly contributed to the deaths of 630,000 Americans. Forget the dead of the South, what Abe did caused hundreds of thousands of deaths of Northerners. Yet there those defending Abe Lincoln see him as good. Amazing to read them defend Abe. .
     
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    Why not do a ratio of the dead vs the slaves that managed to escape alive? 630,000 combat deaths. How about the slaves? Is dead better than slavery?
     
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    They didn't for the U.S. House or Senate. They gained in both places.
     
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    No, Abe invaded. The South had not invaded the North until Robert Lee did in PA. One man killed Abe. Shot him in a chair. I saw that chair myself and the bed Abe died in. Mighty small bed for a man as tall as he was.
     
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    In what country? In the USA, the Democrats lost in both houses. As well as Governors and many state legislatures. It is a lousy time to be a Democrat.
     
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    Have you been on America's plains? Crossing to the West, and being hungry, what would you have the settlers eat? Bunyan is a myth. Even Abe killed Indians. He hung the most Indians in one go than any president has.
     
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    Oh just assume it's the usual bigotry.

    What am I ignorant of?
     
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    As ignorance? How?
     
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    It was more of a prediction followed by observation
     
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    You're trying your best to blame other people for your terrible choice making i.e. being a racist when the reality is you just chose to be a shitty person now.
     
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    What exactly is the usual bigotry? Or can't you actually put together a cogent appraisal of the various criteria that buttresses your own prejudices?

    I do understand that self examination ain't a thing in some parts, so if you happen to be in one of them there parts I''ll completely understand your reticence in defining your "feeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnggggggggs".
     
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    I guess this has completely gone over your head.

    Here's the thing, people always say "ignorant bigotry" and say that people with racist views are ignorant.

    And I always ask, ignorant of what, exactly?

    And I never, ever get an answer. Including now.
     
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    It's not "blaming others" it's making a choice based on observation. A great deal of repeated observation.

    And it's not a "terrible choice" that makes me a "shitty person"

    It's just a realization that very bad things can happen when you get involved with black folks, more so than other races, and especially when it's a large crowd of black folks.
     
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    And sometimes they're people who decry racism.
     
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    do you remind our brown and black racist friends of this list, when the opportunity presents itself?
     
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    Correct, you're making a choice, no one else is at fault for your own choices but you, and as I've said you just chose to be a shitty person by choosing the path of a racist, much like the OP.
     
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