Is there room for compromise in gun rights vs gun control?

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member

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    If you wanted to have a con-con to ban the private ownership of nukes, I'll wager everything I got on a quick resolution with nearly 100% bipartisan support behind it, so long as the wording isnt twisted around to include a bunch of other crap like guns or something. An honest attempt to ban nukes in the Constitution would be easy.
     
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    *deleted mistake*
     
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    In fact, the reason they *havnt* banned the ownership of nukes in the constitution is because they dont want to remind folks that most of the things restricted from the commonfolk are done so in an UNconstitutional, bureaucratic manner, with taxation loopholes and corporate lawyer BS.
     
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    My point is that we can't argue "it's the law" when the other side is saying "we want to repeal the law." The law may be against them, but it's not like they are going to care.

    As for the first part, my bad, didn't read it correctly. The AR15 is clearly protected by that court ruling. It, however, basically just says that a weapon no longer applicable to a militia ceases to be protected by the second amendment (so in Miller's case, the old double barrel shotgun). It also extends to weapons such as nukes that are not applicable to militias even though they are current.
     
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    There is and cannot ever be a compromise with gun grabbers. They never stop. Any gun grabber that tells you otherwise is a liar...
     
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    I look at who is pulling the triggers in gun crimes, and focus my wrath upon them.

    If gun control worked, then Mexico would have among the lowest gun crime rates in the world. Not only do they register guns, they only allow non-military weapons, and there is only one gun store in the nation, ran by the police.

    Pearl of Wisdom: even the most draconian gun control does not work in morally debased areas where felons are not punished properly and severely.

    As far a registration, I'd like to register all repeat violent felons with the hangman.
     
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    Well since mexico has no effective rule of law and is rife with corruption they are hardly a comparison. Try any other first world nation
     
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    Not *all* of mexico is rife with corruption. The cartels have been effectively kicked out of the regions where the commonfolk have disobeyed the govt and taken up arms in organized self defense :)
     
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    That would be unfair. Urban ganglands here in our 1st World Nation have M-13 and other gangs just like those in Mexico. Also the liberal Democrats that run our most violent large cities are no less corrupt than those across the border.
     
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    Even the united states does not have an effective rule of law. Many locations in the united states are just as corrupt as the nation of Mexico, if not even more so.
     
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    And those lcation tend to be of two categories:
    1- locations that are geographically close to mexico
    2- locations with the most similar restrictions on guns as mexico
     
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    I await your evidence. I see a lot of claims that I do not believe.
     
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    America’s 25 most dangerous cities:

    1. St. Louis, MO
    2. Detroit, MI
    3. Birmingham, AL
    4. Memphis, TN
    5. Milwaukee, WI
    6. Rockford, IL
    7. Baltimore, MD
    8. Little Rock, AR
    9. Oakland, CA
    10. Kansas City, MO http://fox2now.com/2016/09/28/st-louis-tops-list-of-25-most-dangerous-cities-in-america/


    All the mayors are liberals and other non-Republicans.

    Many of the most gang infested cities are on the list:
    http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-shocking/the-most-gang-infested-cities-in-america/

    Also know that the gangs are almost always Black or Hispanic. They are not made up of Jews, Native Americans or Southern Baptists Whites.
     
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    Vegas giants Well-Known Member

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    Would you like a list of America's most dangerous states. Most are republican strongholds
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just like you mixing in suicides with murders, that is just a way for leftists to trick simple people into confusion on crime issues.

    Demographics are the best crime indicators. As they are all similar in the worst crime areas.
     
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    I never mentioned suicides. I am talking states with the most homicides per capita. Most are republican strongholds.
     
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    What are the demographics of those states, and where in those states are the homicides occurring?
     
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    Here are the top 13 for MURDER.

    Louisiana 10.3 10.3 10.8 10.6 11.1 11.0 11.8 11.9 14.2 12.4 9.9 12.7 13.0 13.2 11.2 12.5 10.7 12.8 15.7 17.5
    Mississippi 8.7 8.6 6.5 7.1 7.8 6.9 6.6 8.1 7.1 7.7 7.3 7.8 9.3 9.2 9.9 9.0 7.7 11.4 13.1 11.1
    Maryland 8.6 6.1 6.4 6.3 6.8 7.4 7.7 8.8 9.8 9.7 9.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 8.3 8.1 9.0 10.0 9.9 11.6
    Missouri 8.3 6.6 6.1 6.5 6.1 7.0 6.5 7.7 6.5 6.3 6.9 6.2 5.0 5.8 6.6 6.2 6.6 7.3 7.9 8.1
    South Carolina 8.1 6.4 6.2 7.0 6.8 5.7 6.7 6.8 8.0 8.3 7.4 6.9 7.2 7.3 6.3 5.8 6.6 8.0 8.4 9.0
    Alaska 8.0 5.6 4.6 4.1 4.1 4.3 3.1 4.1 6.4 5.4 4.8 5.6 6.0 5.1 6.1 4.3 8.6 6.7 8.9 7.4
    Alabama 7.2 5.7 7.2 7.1 6.2 5.7 6.8 7.6 8.9 8.3 8.2 5.6 6.6 6.8 8.5 7.4 7.9 8.1 9.9 10.4
    Delaware 6.7 5.8 4.2 6.1 5.3 5.7 4.6 6.5 4.3 4.9 4.4 2.0 2.9 3.2 2.9 3.2 3.2 2.8 2.5 4.3
    Nevada 6.2 6.0 5.8 4.5 5.1 5.8 5.9 6.3 7.5 9.0 8.5 7.4 8.8 8.3 8.5 6.5 9.1 9.7 11.2 13.7
    Tennessee 6.2 5.7 5.0 6.2 5.9 5.6 7.4 6.6 6.4 6.8 7.2 5.9 6.8 7.2 7.4 7.2 7.1 8.5 9.5 9.5
    Arkansas 6.1 5.6 5.4 5.9 5.4 4.6 6.2 5.7 6.7 7.3 6.7 6.4 6.4 5.2 5.5 6.3 5.6 8.0 9.9 8.7
    Georgia 6.0 5.7 5.6 5.9 5.6 5.7 5.8 6.6 7.5 6.4 6.2 6.9 7.6 7.1 7.1 8.0 7.5 8.1 7.5 9.5
    Oklahoma 6.0 4.5 5.1 5.8 5.6 5.2 6.3 5.8 6.1 5.8 5.3 5.3 5.9 4.7 5.3 5.3 6.9 6.1 6.9 6.8
     
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    Demographics? Well a lot of republicans....and poor ones too.
     

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