Is There Such a Thing as Bodily Autonomy?

Bodily autonomy is the right for a person to govern what happens to their body without external influence or coercion.
That seems to be the difference between pro-choice and pro-life.

 

Or being required to be vaccinated... Lots of examples other than abortion.

 

No, vaccination does not require anyone using their body to sustain the life of another (without their consent).

 

The situation of pregnancy is unique in that the woman has created a situation where her bodily autonomy is at odds with another human entity.

It would be like if I put you in a cage and wired up a contraption where if I raise my left hand, the cage plunges into a pit of water and you die.
I don't necessarily have the right to raise my left hand under those circumstances, even though I normally do.

 

I would like to believe there is. But from numerous other positions (not relating to abortion) pro-choicers hold, it's obvious that they do not indeed support the concept of bodily autonomy.

So there are some big double standards and the majority of them are hypocritical.

It's hard for me to buy an argument when you are just using it as a political tool for a particular situation and do not actually believe it that firmly.

 

Not getting vaccinated puts other people’s bodies at risk. All rights have limits.

 

What if I caused an accident and the victim required my blood to live? Even if it would not cause me great lasting harm, could I be forced to give that other person my blood?

 

That's a very good question.

And, to make this situation more analogous, imagine you caused that accident through recklessness.

 

I thought recklessness was implied by the use of accident.

 

The definition is: Bodily autonomy is the right for a person to govern what happens to their body without external influence or coercion... So, your comment is entirely wrong. Or purposefully wrong as a deflection. Either way, it's not the definition of the context being discussed.

 

Applied to future life then, you no longer support abortion. Ta Da....

 

No, it isn't. It is ENTIRELY HER BODY.

 

I've also used this analogy before.
Imagine a pregnant woman washes ashore onto a deserted island and gives birth.
She knows a boat will come to rescue them in 9 months. But in the meantime, the baby needs sustenance from her body that only she can provide: breast milk.
If she denies breast feeding, the baby will die.
Does she have the right to deny the use of her body to the baby?

 

What position anyone holds on other topics has NOTHING to do with women's right to bodily autonomy.
You have been told many,many times that in the Abortion Forum/issue/debate "Pro-Choice" refers to women's rights NOT EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD.[/QUOTE]

 

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Jun 07, 2019 · Bodily autonomy or bodily integrity, is the belief that people should have the right to have full control over their own body and be able to make choices concerning their own body, free from coercion or influence (so long as those decisions do not become a public health concern).

 

I disagree. It shows logical inconsistency at best, intellectual dishonesty at worst.

You can have different overall opinions on different issues, but if you don't recognize your argument equally applies to other issues that you may disagree with, you are being unfair.

It can be very useful to compare two separate completely different issues, looking at the logic at play and drawing comparisons.
Can help us spot logical fallacies and biases.

 

By definition, abortion can fit within the category of a "public health concern".
Her decision is directly affecting someone else.

I don't see how you can create a loophole out of this that doesn't affect other issues and abortion equally.
(and notice how they left that loophole of "public health concerns", which could be nearly anything, concerning health and safety of other people, in very indirect ways)

 

If your kidneys fail, I'm not required to save your life by donating mine. So yes, there is bodily autonomy.

 

What if you were the one who punched someone else in their kidneys really hard, causing them to fail?


Besides that, pregnancy does not require any permanent donation of organs. The woman does not have to give up any organs and have them removed from her body.

 

Lets say I did physically harm them. I'm still not required to donate my kidneys. I can however be charged with assault.

 

Should getting pregnant when you don't intend to give life be a crime?

 

I don't think people should go to jail if they accidentally get pregnant.

 

Yes. Body autonomy is important to liberty and individual rights, whether its abortion, drugs, vaccines, food, etc.

 

when you can claim a fetus as a dependent on your taxes, let me know

would have people getting the IVF leftovers and saving them for the tax write off

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
What position anyone holds on other topics has NOTHING to do with women's right to bodily autonomy.

Baloney!

Using your "logic" then if someone disagrees with one law all other laws are null and void(talk about "intellectual inconsistency)...it doesn't work that way.


There are people who don't believe in the right to bodily autonomy...that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.