is this a result of womens rights??

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  1. gringo

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    or why would anyone want to to that to another person??
     
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    So you're against men participating in MMA as well?
     
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    Boxing is as far as I go into blood sports. And it's more than that, boxing is the sweet science as exhibited by an Ali v. Frazier or Hearns v. Leonard match.

     
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    Violance can be a beautiful thing. Why should women be discouraged from partaking in basic human expression?

    Why don't you respect female fighter's?
     
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    It's test of skill/ability/fitness/strength.

    As for the need I guess violence is a part of human nature. It's very liberating , and thats enjoyable.

    I suppose the urge to fight could be compared to the urge to have sex. As in it fills a very primal need.

    What I've never understood is people's fear and detachment from violance? I see it in people all the time. It's hidden away,locked up and becomes very toxic and poisonous.
     
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    Bare Knuckle Fighting comes with dangers, the blows to the brain are harder than if one wore gloves
     
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    A punch isn't the hardest hit in things like MMA and must Thai . A bare shin or knee to the head has a lot more power than a punch and is a lot more damaging than any punch.

    In my opinion even elbows are a lot more more damaging.
     
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    You are not a fan of women's sports because that is your subjective opinion. Its not as a result of the women's rights movements, it is a result of your preconceived bias that women should not be involved in sports.

    Since you asked, the reason you believe that may be caused by a hormonal imbalance, brain tumour, infection of some kind. It's possible. Or maybe you got the crap beat out of you by a woman in the past during a sporting event? I get that. I lost my share of arm wrestling to those damn women.

    Gedt real. I think anyone who is against woman's tennis, basketball, volleyball, soccer, hockey, field hockey, rugby, wrestling, or track and field to name just some sports is a fool. I have coached woman wrestlers and think pound per pound they are as good as men if not in some ways more flexible and stronger and better. I also coached women's soccer. They were as good if not better in attitude thenb any guy I coached. I don't give a damn what is between your legs as long as you wear protection when playing.

    In Canada woman's hockey is well respected and I have played against women and they beat us and hit us as hard as we hit them and it was all good.

    I am not sure what your problem is but you need to get serious man.

    As for any combat sport whether its ufa, certain not all martial arts, boxing, its bloody and its dangerous and the same issues are identical for men and women-its got nothing to do with gender and everything to do with the inherent nature of the sport that could injure either gender just as bad.

    You get hit by an inside pitch or tackled its gonna hurt. Anyone who have watched women play rugby know how good they are.

    My concern about UFA or bare knuckle is brain safety for BOTH genders equally.

    I had to fill in for a second baseman who got injured on an all woman's fast underhand team. It was hilarious. They were a bunch of awesome dykes with a few straight women. I got my share of smacks from slides but they bought be a beer later and were very respectful and one of them set me up with her sister so anyone who can not handle women shaddup. Some of them are my best friends. Even the ones who beat me arm wrestling. They were punks but hey what can you do.

    Anyone against women's beach volleyball has to be absolutely nuts.

    All kidding aside I like women's basketball. They may not put in as many 3 baggers but I like their game college or pro.
     
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    With what we now know about brain damage from repeated impacts, someone would have to be an idiot to willingly put
    themselves through this - man or woman.
     
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    Bare knickle fighting Daniel I agree makes no sense. It is necessarily ging to cause some kind of brain injury. Don't get it. My problem with UFA is when they are down and one is allowed to keep hitting the other in the head.

    I prefer martial arts with rules of discipline to account for safety.

    Some people man are competitive as hell and there will always be a crowd cheering on blood.
     
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    you got way too much time on your hands

    There is no particular reason I do not enjoy women’s sports ..but I am not alone .. only women’s tennis and soccer are popular in the USA ..the women’s professional basketball cannot fill a high school gym

    women’s tennis is actually more enjoyable to watch because there is more volley in their game than men’s tennis..the USA women’s soccer team is no doubt the best in the world ..but they are a classless group that beat up on smaller countries whose players have very few of the advantages the USA players have ..

    the reason women’s fighting has become popular is one reason and one reason only ..MONEY ..women want to earn the same money as men so they must do the same things

    some folks like watching women fight for the same reason I enjoy watching women’s tennis .. there is more action ..

    A man strikes so much harder than a woman that men’s fights end much sooner ..a woman cannot hit with the same force as a man so there is many more punches thrown and landed during a fight

    and to your point .. if women’s beach volleyball players did not wear bikinis would it have become popular?? Would there be such a thing as a professional beach volleyball player without the thong bikinis ??

    You can stop the philosophy lesson now

    I just don’t enjoy women sports and the reasons are not important
     
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    I agree your reasons are not important. Thanks for having no life either and responding. Lol.
     
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    Womens sports are less popular for the most part for the same reason junior leagues or high school sports are less watched than the top professional sports level. Because people want to see the best of the best, and men have genetic advantage.

    It isnt always so. Gymnastics often have the women better, so the women are more watched. And as noted above, some sports like tennis (more volleys) or beach volleyball (seeing women in bikinis) have other draws.

    The trans women competing on women's sports (and dominating, some say unfairly) highlights all of this. One solution would be to do away with gender division in sports and have the men and women all compete together, but that would likely exclude (or mostly exclude) women from the top end of the sport.
     
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    Men and women are different physiologically and it would make no sense in competitive sports to mix them. That said, in amateur non competitive sports up to puberty its not that dangerous. It can get dangerous once physicality changes for BOTH genders.

    As for transitioning people its caused a lot of issues as to fairness. In particular one South African runner Caster Semenya was and remains in all intensive purposes a male with female external organs and its an unfair advantage and the fact he/she competes as a woman is unfair but not all transitioning athletes necessarily have an advantage, certainly not men suppressing testosterone levels to transition to women, maybe the other way around. Its complex.

    All that said transitioning athletes are a complex issue and were not why this thread was started. It was started because some people have an issue with women being athletes and engaging in sports men engage in. It makes them feel insecure clearly from the comments. You can't handle a competitive woman as good as you, get a life. I ain't being diplomatic on this one. Any man who has a problem with women's sports has a problem with women, period.

    Me, I have coached women. They are as good at anything as we men in their own way. They are just as dedicated and skilled and I have no idea why certain men get threatened my women's sports or their being competitive.

    Then again I only have daughters so I realized and learned long ago from them all we men are idiots and we should just shut up and stop causing wars. No problem. I haven't killed anyone in weeks.
     
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    The OP was not about not allowing or anyone feeling threatened by women in sports. It was about women’s sports being less of a draw and being less interesting to most people.

    Not being a fan of something doesn’t mean you want it to end. It can go on and you can remain disinterested.
     
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    As good at anything as we men in their own way??? Like what? I believe that women compete with the same intensity as men do for the most part. But, you'll have to be more precise on what skills you are talking about.
     
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    Do tell us, please...
     
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    Hasn't that already happened?
     
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    Yes, it has. And women objecting to it have been labelled "TERFs: Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists".

    Its a double layer on crybullying.
     
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    No I think when sports for the most part are not as entertaining. To compete for greatness and something traditionally considered male or masculine and when women do it men who are the majority of sports viewers are put off.

    The issue seems to come up where the objective should be about enjoying the sport for the skill and prowess and the strength character it takes. Not the sexual appeal of the athletes. Which I and most men agree with that's why they watch men's sports all those people in the stands watching the super bowl are not gay men.

    The only reason you would watch women perform feats of physical strength is because what they're doing is good for a woman if you want to see strength and competition watch the men.
     

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