Is this an example of, the fruition of "Law & Justice"?

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  1. Raffishragabash

    Raffishragabash Banned

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    Or would that require, a life sentence w/o chance of parole?

     
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    Frankly, I didn't watched the whole thing. I heard the case before and agree with the verdict. He shot when the threat was nuetralized.
     
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    Raffishragabash Banned

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    So, does that ensure you are not commenting irresponsibly? Ill-informed??



    At what point was the unarmed suspect, a threat? Was it, the moment he was a darkskinned Black male??? What part of the footage did you see, where he was a threat?
     
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    I watched enough to get the jist of it but frankly, I don't like watching hearings. They're rather dull. Although, I will admit that I confused this incident with another incident.



    He wasn't unarmed. He had a folding knife which can be more deadly than a firearm at close range.

    Lol.

    As I said, I confused this incident with another. In this incident, he was walking away and the officer got closer and shot him. Not justified.
     
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    Raffishragabash Banned

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    Oh. Okay then.

    So how does this go with your claim that he was "He wasn't unarmed. He had a folding knife which can be more deadly than a firearm at close range". Or is this just more conjecture, like the past 150yrs, of always avoiding telling the truth concerning cop's hatred of Black males?
     
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    I was correcting your statement that he was unarmed. He wasn't. A folding knife is a weapon in the wrong hands.
     
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    I know nothing of this case, but I hope this means that wearing a badge is less likely seen by jurors, as an affirmative defense proven. I accept the jury's conclusion that first degree murder was proven by the prosecution, and the mitigating factor was proven by the defense. Both ought to matter in sentencing.
     
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    According to your bizarre logic here then every cop in the video with a weapon aimed at Mac, in that moment, should be charged with murdering him:


    I cannot join you in 'playing pretend' here about a tragedy where some darkskin Black teen with a tiny legal pocket knife, did in fact never EVER make any illegal moves with said knife and never even brandished that pocket knife.

    Altho I do thank you for once again displaying your anti-Black, mindset, as you now stealthily give credence to cop's habit of treating Black males as if they're subhuman savages.
     
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    Another disingenuous statement, like the verbiage we read when rogue cops wrote their own police reports after acting peculiarly-violent.
     
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    Not justified shooting. Suspect had a knife walking away from the officer.

    Life with parole would be justified
     
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    Wait, how did you get that out of my post?


    First off, you can do a lot of damage with a "tiny" knife. In fact, a 3 inch knife is standard for self defense knives. Second, he did made an illegal move when he slashed the tires of the patrol car and smashed the windshield. And finally, he was brandishing it. In fact he was still holding it when he was shot.

    How? ANYONE who holds a knife, slashes tires, and smashes windshields is a threat. Had he been white, I would be saying the same thing. The only reason why I agree with the verdict that the officer is guilty is because Laquan was walking away and the officer followed him and shot him.
     
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    It was caught on tape.
     
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    The cop was wrong, wrong, wrong. We have all seen the video.
     
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    Fortunately, a court of law did not agree with your analysis, or else racism's cop would have been acquitted then celebrated for subduing a threat to cop's lives.

    Laquan showed that he had no intent to harm any living organisms, and your deceit cannot override that fact.
     
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    Good for the court.

    Someone should keep an eye on those who disagree.
     
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    As I said, I agree with the verdict. At the time, Laquan was walking away and the officer walked closer to him and shot him. Now, had Laquan was walking towards a crowd, other officers, or charged the initial officer, I'd shoot him all day long and would be justified.
     
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    This is contradictory doubletalk, because initially he did in fact walk toward the officers ---and they did not feel threatened to shoot him. It wasn't until he started turning his path back, toward the curb, that racism's cop then realized he was about to miss out on a chance to lynch a darkie so he ran up and shot Laquan.
     
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    They were justified in that moment to shoot but chose not to. Each officer has his own threshold on what or when someone meets lethal force level.

    You cannot be serious. Please provide proof that this particular officer is racist or thought what you're projecting into his mind.
     
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    I would never convict on a hate crime regardless of a judge's instructions.

    I would convicted on the facts of the case, and the fact is the cop murdered the kid.
     
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    This is beautiful.
     
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    What about, in the case of darkskin Black man Stanley Gibson? When the White LVMPD cop asked his own, spouse, "was I wrong for killing that N*GGER?"

    Or what about, the racist San Fran cop??? Who advised his fellow Caucasoid officer, to carry his service weapon on him, when his wife's Black friends come over for dinner that night. Because he *might need to put an animal down* quickly.

    They took oaths and bi-weekly psychecks, yes, they outright lied onto the USA flag and their own American communities when they pledged to impartially protect We The People from lawbreakers ---while viewing some of those good people in this horrid way. How did you conclude that it cannot be, a hate crime, whenever White cops do wicked things to those Black people??
     
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    You cannot be serious. Please provide proof that it is, sane, for each officer to have his own threshold on what or when someone meets lethal force level? That is the exact flagrant philosophy which "Bo" debunked with Time Distance Cover/Auditory Exclusion.

    Your philosophy I quoted is what caused the execution of Tamir Rice, Trayvon, Walter Scott, Philande Castille, Amadou Diallo, the recent kid in SAC holding a cellphone in his backyard, the more recent kid from East Pittsburgh, and a host of other darkskin Black people.

    Good for nothing Hillary, did have one great plan, in her 2016 campaign pledge to get Congress to pass a law which required "lethal threat" to fit into one, sole ironclad definition. To make it easier to imprison all USA cops who keep coming up with peculiar stories when lynching unarmed Black citizens. And it's partially why Hillary lost the election, thanks to the 'peculiar institution' which you all graduated from when casting your vote.
     
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    What is?
     
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    Exchanging Ideas
     
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    Let me clarify. Every officer is taught the black and white of lethal force and when it's appropriate. Someone who is shooting at you is clear justification to shoot back for example. However, there are too many gray areas where it's technically justifiable to shoot but some officers choose not to.

    You can't debunk human nature and human perception. One officer's time, distance, cover and auditory exclusion is not the same as another officer.
    Already discussed.

    Has nothing to do with police.

    The officer was tried and convicted.
    Already addressed.
    Police clearly identified themselves and he refused to show his hans and was heading towards the officers.
    Links?
    Lol.
     

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