Is this forum topic being polluted by trolls?

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  1. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know it is their goal but really dudes, some of you respond to the usual trolls with the same old drivel and all it does is encourage these well known individuals to continue asking redundant questions and so it just becomes more of the same. How about not responding and instead, reporting. Let's clean up this section of the forum.
    What say you?
     
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  2. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unfortunately, everyone has different beliefs. Someone with an opposing belief to yours doesn't mean they're a troll, or vice versa.

    Also, are you wanting to go against the constitution on free speech?
     
  3. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    Well here it tis:

    A Mother Crab watched her daughter walk in the customary Crab-like way, sidewise, and asked Her daughter, why don't you walk in the straightforward way daughter ?

    The daughter responded; show me the way maitre, and I will follow.
    So her mother tried, this way and that way, failed and try try try again, only to fail miserably each time, so finally, the daughter said;
    Mother, when you can go straight, show me how and so will I......

    So, show us the way.......
     
  4. Galileo

    Galileo Well-Known Member

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    Such vagueness is not really helpful.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    There are several trolls. However, they become well known pretty quick. Their value lies in providing response opportunities to the inane things they post, posts that often reflect those in the general population that formulate opinions or regurgitate them based on low information and do their side more damage than good for the casual observer.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    The board has an ignore function. Use it, and the trolls go away.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Straw, man.
    No one opposes holding a different belief; everyone but trolls oppose trolling.
    Read the forum rules -- trolling violates them.
     
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  8. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    I agree. Lets stop all the personal attacks and focus only on the issues. See who breaks that first.
     
  9. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Different posters on different forums are quick to use the troll willy nilly. This is usually thrown at new users.

    You do get trolls, but they often set an account up, troll and get banned normally within a few hours.
     
  10. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    troll
    1a. Noun
    One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

    1b. Noun
    A person who, on a message forum of some type, attacks and flames other members of the forum for any of a number of reasons such as rank, previous disagreements, sex, status, ect.
    A troll usually flames threads without staying on topic, unlike a "Flamer" who flames a thread because he/she disagrees with the content of the thread.

    1c. Noun
    A member of an internet forum who continually harangues and harasses others. Someone with nothing worthwhile to add to a certain conversation, but rather continually threadjacks or changes the subject, as well as thinks every member of the forum is talking about them and only them. Trolls often go by multiple names to circumvent getting banned.
     
  11. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Those of us that have been here for a while know full well who troll this topic - we don't need your help to tell who they are.
     
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  12. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    Troll is the term often used for someone that refuses to agree with you
     
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    The 1st Amendment doesn't apply here, as this isn't a government site. Trolling is perfectly Constitutional yet not acceptable here.
     
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    More importantly:

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  15. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unfortunately for you, members are allowed to post as they wish.
     
  16. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    And if a troll can only be labeled as such by the mods then anyone else’s opinion is just that.....an opinion
     
  17. TOG 6

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    LOL
    The board has an ignore function, so I am unaffected.
    Except when they violate the ToS.
    When they do this, they get suspended/banned -- ask, and I am sure they will tell you.
     
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  18. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, I'll just bail out here. Good luck with your campaign, please take your anger out on someone else.

    I was just trying to put forward some comments, I didn't expect to be a target.
     
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    Funny, that you feel like you were.
     
  20. Galileo

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    Closed minded people think they're being trolled when other people disagree with them.
     
  21. perdidochas

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    There are definite trolls on this board. I don't particularly think that you (or most of the gun control advocates) are trolls (except ronstar on a bad day).
     
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    Pay no Toll to the Troll !
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    I don’t use it, easy enough to bypass inanity. I do think we are missing a dislike button and stats however.
     
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    I'd like an option to exclude people from topics - 'you do not have permission to post here' or some-such.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    There are paid trolls, those trolls paid by the number of posts that are easy to identify. Funny though, there is a vague theshold where rather than disruption of legitimate discussion purposed to a benefactor’s long term advantage, some trolls leave a trail of silliness that detracts from the character of their benefactor generating a negative perception of their sincerity and their competence, thus causing the antithesis of purpose. It becomes particularly counter productive in forums discussing highly polarized topics such as gun control.
     

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