Is this the end for Venezuela Socialism?

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  1. sharik

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    who in a sane mind would care much about going abroad from where you get so many things for free or at low price while not having to work hard?
    well, depends on... like i said, you get as much as you produce. CCCP did need a reform in work ethics & discipline.
    what is that? why need it?
    how long would they let you talk of freedoms at your local tax department?
     
  2. sharik

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    no income tax, but there was a tax on those without children.
     
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    How 'porous' were their borders, how 'fluid' were their entitlements, how beneficent were they with (any) / global bailouts, how enshrined were the rudiments of individual freedoms ... etc. etc. etc. etc. ....

    Do you not realize that you are enumerating the "REDONCULOUSNESS" of the assertions... LOL :)
     
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    your assertions, that is?
     
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    Oh well, just another day for the USA.
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    Just like CAFTA member El Salvador:

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    This is why "The hidden hand of the market will never work without a hidden fist." (Thomas Friedman).
     
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    Capitalism can not exist without socialist programs
     
  9. Sahba*

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    Wow... F'n EPIC :) I do so enjoy when you post, just wishing that others knew the "role" that you play here on PF ... (I'm being nice Mods)
     
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    All I can say is


    Flippitty bippitty! Lol
     
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    Maybe you can name a capitalist country with no social programs.



    Just one. Lol
     
  12. Fred C Dobbs

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    Yeah, they had no taxes and no escape.
     
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    You seem to confuse social programs with socialist programs. You can probably spot the difference between social gatherings and socialist gatherings.
     
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    How much was Rosa Martinez making before CAFTA? In fact El Salvador is a terrible place to invest, which is why labor is cheap.
     
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    Probably the same. CAFTA just prevents the government from raising the minimum wage or regulating the market. The Investor-State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) chapter allows corporations to sue governments for actions that undermine their investment “expectations” and hurt their business. Cases are decided by an international corporate court. "Free Trade" is trading away democracy to multinational corporations.
     
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    Whenever there is an opportunity for a Central America citizen to work for a "Multinational Corporation" they'll line up for hours. Would you rather work for Volvo or Jorge's Sweat Shop. Foreign investment is the only chance many of these lower and middle class people have and, of course, if you invest you want as little interference from the corrupt government as possible. And they are all corrupt, though Costa Rica may be the exception.
     
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    You feel the world would have been better off if the USA had never existed? What do you suppose makes the American people so vicious and bloodthirsty? Diversity?
     
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    That's right.

    WikiLeaks Haiti: Let Them Live on $3 a Day - The Nation

    WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would Stay Cheap - Business Insider


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    Translation: "Get your people back to work!"

    Keep it up. I can do this x infinity.
     
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    Unfortunately libearal never have enough socialist redistribution of the wealth

    The more you take care of everyone through government the more they expect to be taken care of

    Which creates more takers than givers
     
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    Conservatives are all alike!!!!!!!! Lol
     
  23. Fred C Dobbs

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    So the problems in Haiti is also the fault of the USA? What would suggest to get Haiti up to the standards of Iceland, for example? Or the Bahamas?

    Oh i know you can distribute anti American propaganda indefinitely. There's no shortage on the Internet so I'll not debate that.

    In any free market system people tend to get paid what they're worth. If you pay people more than they're worth you won't be in business very long.
     
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    I’ll take that as a compliment

    The other conservatives thst post here do an exceptional job of presenting conservative logic
     
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    Yep. Like the coast guard lieutenant. Lol
     

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