Is Trump guilty of suborning perjury?

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If one thing is false, then you cannot trust anything in the report but hey, if you need the mental masturbation to help you sleep, feel free.
     
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    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    No kidding.

    In the Minds of the RW:

    Mueller has gone from the "Leader of an Unjust Witch Hunt" to "He's got cred for pushing back at Buzzfeed".

    Will the RW ever make up their mind? About anything?

    Will the RW ever post any "opinion" that isn't a rubber stamp of Breitbart, Etc. Marching Orders?

    The watch continues.:salute:
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a 180! Sucks to be proven wrong, doesn't it?
     
  4. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tough few days eh?

    First Nancy had her wings clipped, now this.
     
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    You are Grasping at straws here. If that were the case Mueller had no reason to say anything at all. By the way Mueller referred to documents and testimony which would include everything in Mueller's possession
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you must be so disappointed.
     
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    The only evidence is that Cohen knowingly lied to Congress, and was basing his testimony on Trump's media talking points, even when he knew those talking points were false. Now, if Buzzfeed is right, and Trump told him to lie, then great, impeach Trump. But, if Buzzfeed is wrong, then Cohen just goes to prison for purjury, or he's pardoned by Trump.
     
  8. dagosa

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    As a Humper who supports Trump and his primary sources, the National Inquirer and Wikkileaks , I’d be careful about throwing any stones till all the facts are in. But no, you guys will bloviating way too early and find out Trump is still a slime bag in the end. But he’s your slime bag.
     
  9. dagosa

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    Hmm, you spend two years dissing Mueller and now he’s your knight in shining armor.
     
  10. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah yes, the old escape hatch defense. Make claims that you believe have the face of a woman.

    She has a face during her sleep that she masks for the day face.
     
  11. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I came to forums when Clinton was president.
    My first forum was called Great Commanders. Oh they do disagree. But do so with couth and intellect.

    I switched to a Bill Clinton topic on AOL

    I opened it up and amazed started reading how Democrats posted and compared to republicans.

    I lurked to make sure what was going on.

    Positive I could change the attitude of Democrats,. I leaped onto the topic like a gecko lands his food.

    So, I put out my right foot. Asked the forum why not try to talk nice about topics thinking they might agree and suddenly light up the topics with wisdom and perhaps fame.

    Nope, Democrats shut me down. Attacked me like I was Dracula and was after their blood.

    I never talked to a republican that bared yellow colored fangs. Many Democrats had them.

    This forum once sounded more attractive. Until running into more Democrats.
     
  12. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have yet to diss Mueller. What has he said we dissed him over?

    I admire a man who is asked to charge Trump yet levies legal charges over things done in Russia against Russians. Great work.
    I admire a man who locates tax cheats while supposedly tracking Trump. But sadly none are Trump.
    I admire a man uncovering events done in Ukraine prior to working for Trump. But finds no events in Ukraine connected to Trump.

    We only wish Mueller would uncover some other crime that has the tattoos of Trump on them.

    What amazes me so much about Democrats is how little Mueller gives them that they love him for.
     
  13. dagosa

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    When the heat is on, let’s talk about Hillary and Bill.
     
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    He gave them one thing with this response...because it’s the first time he’s mentioned the inaccuracy of this claim, could it be he’s not disclaiming anything else written in the last two years. If that’s true, that’s worse for Trump supporters.
     
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    Comedy Gold.........

    :roflol:
     
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    Watching the Trumpers running around in fury and rage is . . . interesting.

    Cal-Pak's observation above cannot be refuted: "Buzzfeed said Muller has emails and texts proving Trump told Cohen to lie.

    If Muller has audio tapes of Trump telling Cohen to lie, and not emails or texts.

    Then the article is not accurate. But it is also, not false.

    Remember, Cohen reportedly recorded lots of things." [#24 above]
     
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    #24 puts an end to Trumper hope:

    "Buzzfeed said Muller has emails and texts proving Trump told Cohen to lie.

    If Muller has audio tapes of Trump telling Cohen to lie, and not emails or texts.

    Then the article is not accurate. But it is also, not false.

    Remember, Cohen reportedly recorded lots of things."
     
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    All you’ve succeeded in doing is to keep repeating the same gop talking points that if evyone around Trump is lying and committing criminal acts, it says nothing about the Trump. That’s as hard to beleive as it was about the plethora of indictments and convictions during the Reagan admistration.
    You can whine about Hillary and Bill all you want, but very little corruption was ever proven with his admistration or her activity compared to Nixon, Reagan and now Trump. These are all GOP investigations. So either the Clinton saga is overblown or the GOP is really their usual incompetent self. You can’t have it both ways.
     
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    A reporter can be inaccurate about the color of the car used in a bank robbery. I for one would be too careful reading into either the buzzfeed article or the Mueller response. It may be just Mueller reinforcing the idea that nothing came from his people because they would get the color of the getaway car correct.
     
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    As an anti-Trumper I would be careful about throwing stones until all the facts are in. As soon as this rumor broke, you guys were bloviating about Trump being done fo sure this time.
     
  21. dagosa

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    Don’t lump us all together. I’m a referencer of The NY Times and the larger institutions. We’ll just let this one play itself out. Regardless of what little tidbit of false security you derive from a conflict inthe evidence against Trump, the basics are there.
    Both Trump and OJ are still criminals regardless of the glove not fitting
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I used your words. If I am a lumper, then you must also be a lumper.
     
  23. dagosa

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    It’s obvious you have nothing to say....you just copied my post with your own slant. Funny.
     
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    Then why did you bother quoting me and commenting?
     
  25. dagosa

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    No, I make no bones about it. I am a full fledged anti Trumper but for basic reasons, not the trivial **** having to do with when or not he tried to do a deal with Anyone. I’m a Trump hater because he has no empathy, and no intellect. He deserves to be treated the way he treats others. The same with Faux which props him up on a hill of lies.
     
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