Is Trump guilty of suborning perjury?

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  1. doombug

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    Hahaha!
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    And Mueller said such reports are not accurate.
     
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    His statement wasn't "hey it didn't come from us" he said the descriptions of emails and text messages and documents and other evidence of Trump suborning perjury are not true. He took the extraordinary step to make a public announcement to debunk it.
     
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    Oh, inaccurate means all of that. I’ll have to check the dictionary. Gee, none of the synonyms implies any such thing. “Imprecise” does not mean.....everything is wrong .
    You just bloviated .
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Common sense says that if one thing is wrong, you cannot trust any of it, that is unless you are suffering severe TDS.
     
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    Buzzfeed is a joke.
     
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    Yes what the article said about alleged evidence is inaccurate, wrong, not true.

    in·ac·cu·rate
    /inˈakyərət/
    adjective

    1.
    not accurate:
    "false or inaccurate descriptions of goods"

    inaccurate[in-ak-yer-it]
    SYNONYMS|EXAMPLES|WORD ORIGINSEE MORE SYNONYMS FOR inaccurate ON THESAURUS.COM
    adjective
    not accurate; incorrect or untrue.
     
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    We will debunk that comment right now.

    Mueller said the Buzzfeed report was not accurate, not "false".
     
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    This thread = liberal desperation. Step 1, start 'we got 'em' thread using an already de-bunked FAKE NEWS story. Step 2, get called out. Step 3, live in denial and pull out dictionaries and parse words that suit your TDS.
     
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    That the best you got? Who else has confirmed it?
     
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    Mueller did not say "false".

    And the Trump right have nothing to push back against that.
     
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    Bad month for Trump, but maybe Mueller's report next month will help him out.

    upload_2019-1-19_11-33-31.png from 538 today
     
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    You need to keep up.
     
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    You're aware this is all fake news?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ueller-has-rebuked-yet-more-fake-news.549489/
     
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    That's a big ask right there...:roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Ha ha ha
    Well, you’d better be careful what you want to argue. Trump will Lie all the time. Does that mean we don’t believe whatever else he says....bet your asteroid.
    Buzzfeed ? I really don’t pay much attention to them. But please, the National inquirer and Wikkileakes and Faux ? . I wouldn't go down that road.
     
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    That statement is a joke. Review the statement you are replying to.

    In it I cite three sources!

    I bet you voted for Trump.
     
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    Omg! This is so sadly desperate!! News false when something is not accurate it’s false
     
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    Gee, even when being snarky you still manage to make yourself look foolish. Here is the statement from the Mueller team:


    "BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the Special Counsel's Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony are not accurate," said Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller's office, in a statement.

    Try reading it again without you partisan blinders. Nothing in that statement denys that Mueller has evidence that Trump suborned perjury.
     
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    Is buzzfeed your source?? Hahahahah
     
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    We know from Trump's defense attorney, Rudy Giuliani, that negotiations over the Moscow Trump Tower continued on into November 2016, not January 2016. Trump claimed the negotiations ended in January 2016.

    "According to the answer that he gave, it would have covered all the way up to November of 2016," Giuliani said on ABC's "This Week," apparently referring to Trump's written answers to special counsel Robert Mueller regarding the deal. This means that during the entire election campaign, Trump had a stake in the Russian government.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday...-trump-tower-moscow-discussions-took-place-up

    This is why Trump would want Cohen to lie.

    And we know this from The Hill article from December. "Cohen last month pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about plans to build a Trump property in Moscow, plans he initially said were scrapped in January 2016, but actually continued well into the presidential campaign according to his confession." As into November 2016, the entire campaign.

    Are we to believe Cohen lied on his own? Trump would not want voters to know he was negotiating a hotel in Moscow while running for President. We are to believe he said nothing about this to his personal lawyer who was about to testify before Congress? That is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?

    https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday...-trump-tower-moscow-discussions-took-place-up

    Paul Farhi in an Op/Ed in the the Washington Post said this morning, "The fact that the normally buttoned-up special counsel’s office felt compelled to issue a statement suggests that the story’s conclusions were too baldly stated and too consequential to stay unchallenged. In effect, Mueller’s office seemed to be saying that BuzzFeed went too far and got some things wrong, though it did not say how or what."

    We know that Mueller does not leak, and this came from "two federal law enforcement officials involved in an investigation of the matter." That has to carry some validity. Some observers think Mueller is feeling deeply proprietary about his evidence and does not want premature disclosure of interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization, internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents.

    That would explain why Mueller could not explain how or what BussFeed got wrong.

    It should be noted that Mueller did not deny the accusation that Trump asked Cohen to lie. He said, "BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the special counsel’s office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony are not accurate."

    In other words, Mueller was solely concerned about his evidence.
     
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    I am not the one that wishes to blindly believe inaccurate reporting.
     
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    Actually no. Even if Trump did commit an impeachable act the Republican in the Senate would have to vote for impeachment. So far they have been totally unwilling to stand up to Trump on anything no matter how egregious.
     
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    Ha ha. No, I am on record here voting for sanders, but once your team acted like a banana republic, the DP and DNC, and hillary ran, I voted for stein.

    I never liked the ego of trump, nor his behavior as a private citizen. I just never let my dislike destroy my mind as you guys have done.
     
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    The only thing good about such a silly post is you are now willing to beleve everything that comes from Mueller. Remember that when his report comes out.
     

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