Is Trump Readying Us to Stage a Coup?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Aleksander Ulyanov, Feb 7, 2017.

  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    All the rightists are paranoid about a coup from the left, but we shouldn't forget that most coups come from the Executive, because the executive has the Army.

    A coup allowing Trump to become a true dictator is the next step in the Megalomaniac's Playbook which he has, so far, followed entirely to the letter and with greater success than any other in history. Trump is, right now, the most powerful man in the world but I don't think he means to stop until he is the most powerful man possible.

    I think this recent business of the phantom terrorists is setting us up for that. He is going to claim some awful atrocity which never existed like the Bowling Green Massacre and use it as an excuse to declare Martial Law and then dissolve Congress while taking over the Internet

    Yeh, crazy, but no crazier than Trump himself I say

    DAM, I forgot the fershlugginer POLL, fer Crissake and I can't delete a thread, *******mit

    I apologize to everyone. I really wish I had some weed to justify this.

    Oh well, I was going to ask for justified answers anyway, so just have at it, or not
     
  2. Pureinheart

    Pureinheart New Member

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    Wow... you are tripping. Big time.
     
  3. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Merely (and soberly) stating a fact.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I hope so, I really do but consider, He has been in office less than a whole month and already signed more decrees than most Presidents do in their whole terms. You may say that just shows he is hardworking but Congress doesn't like decrees and decrees are a step into legislation by the Executive. Eventually Congress is going to push back on one or another of these like the judiciary is doing already, and Trump doesn't like opposition of any type, he is showing that quite clearly
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't seem to understand that the things he's giving priority to are deadly serious, for you and all Americans. Thankfully he didn't give the jihadists plenty of notice so they could beat the ban - oh but wait, your judiciary did that, didn't they! [​IMG] :wall: 'The enemy within'??
     
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    He is countering Obama decrees and Congress is probably comfortable with him doing that. If there is any blowback on it then Trump will absorb it and give Congress some cover.
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Are you really, honestly thinking that the Jihadists only way of getting here is to sneak in with refugees? Please tell me you do realize that any jihadist can rather easily obtain a false passport and come here as a tourist from any other nation in the world than the seven that were mentioned. You do realize that ALL refugees go through a vetting process which can take from 18 months to two years, don't you?

    Oh, and just FYI, "the enemy within" is one of the very first phrases that tyrants use, particularly when they want to justify a coup

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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it isn't the only way but it sure is the easiest wouldn't you say? Let me known if you can think of an easier way please. And I don't care who coined 'The enemy within' but I use it for er, the enemy within.
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Why in the blinking blue blazes would coming here as a refugee be the easiest way when I just said that refugees go through a vetting which takes from 18 to 24 months? Can I think of an easier way? Why not what I just said, get a false passport and come here as a tourist from Saudi Arabia. Do you really think it's hard for ISIS, which still controls whole cities, to make false passports?

    And besides, ALL of the terrorists who so far done anything in the US were here already, a lot of them were CITIZENS, one was even in the Army

    I've always thought that in light of this we need to maybe keep a better eye on our own people. I'm not talking 1984 but is it really too much to think that maybe people who post their whole itinerary of who they plan to kill on their Facebook page might get a concerned visit from some government counselors? Doesn't something like that sound like something I and all Americans might seriously want rather than ineffective and silly great shows of "banning" travel to legitimate people from whole great swaths of the world?
     
  10. LiveUninhibited

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    Yes, so much danger from those 7 countries, compared to others. As evidenced by... not doing business with Trump?
     
  11. EggKiller

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    Congress is free at anytime to introduce and pass legislation that addresses any EO's from Trump. Trumps EO's are meant to get quick action. Congress can codify them or not.

    Within one month you accuse Trump of planning a coup for dictatorship. Congratulations, you beat all the right wing conspiracy theorists by 3 years during Obamas reign. A little hooch isn't going to fix that delusion.
     
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    Yes, one made it into the army. What does that say about government vetting capabilities? Thanks for the perfect example of why we need to reorganize governments response to this issue.
     
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    We already had a coup, it is called a free and fair election.
     
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    Can you send me some of what your taking?
     
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    Of course anyone who has at least a rational brain cell alive and ticking knows that terrorists of any kind especially Islamist ISSIS terrorists do not want to wait through years of refugee camps and vetting in order to get into the country. You are of very correct but you must realize the fact that Trumpeizdas do not see what their hero does through the eyes of rational people. They actually believe him that he can keep the country great again just by repeating thise words over and over again.

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    But according to your hero thecTrump Toot the election was fixed... the Tool repeated that over and over so how could it have been free and fair?
     
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    Clinton proved how fixed it is and the media was in on the fix. The tools are the useful idiots that think Russia fixed the election.
     
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    Our military would not carry out a coup. Calm down.

    Have a cup :coffeecup: on me.
     
  18. One Mind

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    The only coup you have to worry about is this oligarchy, staging a coup against trump who is a clear and present danger to the fascism going on, as revealed to us by the Princeton Study which MSM went into a practical blackout over. In fact that coup began even before trump won, for his campaign promises were a threat to the oligarchy.

    IMO, we are seeing the coup being set up now, with the latest ploy being in regards to what trump said in regards to Putin. He told the truth, which must never be told, that we are killers too. We do regime changes, and use lies to justify it. But oh no, we must never tell the truth about the US, that we are just as bad as Putin, probably worse given our size and reach. So trump is being demonized over telling the *******ned truth. So we are supposed to lie to ourselves, on behalf of our elites, on behalf of the war mongering complex, and when trump tells the truth, we demonize him. And he told the truth, and if MSM were honest, they would present all of the evidence anyone would ever need. But MSM serves the oligarchy. Which is what happens when changed in FCC rules allowed 6 mega corporations to be trusted with information, news. And just look at what passes for the news!

    So the only coup will come from the entrenched forces that run this nation. Not from an outsider who is trying to reverse what the oligarchs have done to the people in this nation. The Left are being played for the chumps they are. They will side with the oligarchs, due to their inability to grasp reality. But that has always been their shortcoming, but I am talking about the faux liberals, the modern liberal. Who are not liberals at all. Just mutants.
     
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    The left now claims the violent terrorism committed by the left is 'free speech' and just 'protests'. They are calling for an overthrow of the duly elected President by any means possible including assassination because they are terribly butthurt.
     
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    Hey don't knock lucid!!
    If you really feel the need to escape reality for awhile just tune in to CNN

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    Im sure it would be a peaceful assassination. Just sayin
     
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    Even under Martial Law, the President cannot use the Army as an arm of law enforcement. It is illegal...even under Martial Law.

    He would have to use some combination of the National Guard, the FBI, BATFE, DHS and/or Secret Service.
     
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    Personally I think Trump has surrounded himself with too many well respected military men. Mattie for instance is arguably the most distinguished leader of his generation. A coup against Trump from the military is a real possibility if he seriously peeves them off.

    Trump has 4 or 8 long years to establish his legacy. He had no need for a coup. Democrats are the ones with absolutely no power: no white house, small minorities in both houses of Congress, less than 2/5ths of state legislatures and governorships, and upcoming Congressional elections where their candidates are on the chopping block, not the GOP's.

    The only chance at power the left has in the next 4 years is some variety of overthrow, either violent or through falsely designating Trump as mentally ill. Even in that case they're still stuck with a unanimously Republican Congress and Mike "electrocute the gay away" Pence as President. Have fun with that.
     
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    Where's the poll?
     
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    Not true. The Ohio State attacker came in as a refugee, and so did a large number of somali men caught trying to join ISIS and al-shabab.

    If our "vetting" procedures actually worked, we wouldn't have 1000 open cases of terrorism, because all of them immigrated here at some point in the not so distant past.

    Despite growing up in the "land of the free", going to school, graduating....living in and around Americans their whole lives.....they still want to destroy western culture.

    You can't blame ME CULTURE for american born terrorists, since they live in our culture. The only other common denominators are the culture the parents bring with them, their animosity towards western culture, and their religion.

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    Under Obama the number of federal shock troops (swat level stuff) now exceeds the size of the US Marine Corps.
     
  25. HereWeGoAgain

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    He only announced it was coming for a year!

    The Judicial systems judges law, not policy. But since your not an American I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

    If you are a Trumper I wouldn't expect you to understand either.
     

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