Is Yahweh breaking an objective moral tenet?

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  1. Greatest I am

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    Eh, the democracy is the individuals.

    It is not the democracy that guarantees and enforces/protects rights. It is people.

    You are talking of the toxic type of laws that give more rights than individuals have.

    That is a U.S. thing. Most countries treat their people better.

    I guess their governments care about the people, as you seem to think, (wrongly), the U.S. does for it's.

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    I would refuse to be chosen by a genocidal type.

    Then again, all I have to do is bend over and become a Christian.

    No thanks. I have morals and do not like the Christian view.

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    Think Trinity and father and son archetypes.

    Try a simple question.

    If you decided a sacrifice was required, and you had a choice between you and your child, who would die?

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    Me.

    But I'm already a mortal, physical human that can die. Probably not similar to God in that way. Which is probably why He became one to sacrifice Himself in precisely the way I would've and you think he should've.

    What do you think should've happened differently?
     
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    the democracy, is the club, the corporation, mob rule, operating as an individual
    Nice contradiction in terms. The democracy is the people, the peoples club.
    The corporate gov was created and chartered precisely for the purpose of protecting our rights, so you admit its illegitimate.
    Laws that are not based in material, 'physical injury or damage', that is the principle this country was created upon and if you read law even poorly you will note that the moment the last so called founder died that basis began to rapidly die of cancer.
    It faulty judgement to merely a compare this country to others, and pretend it does not violate the peoples constitution (BoR) and drift increasingly further from it in the constant advancement of its own agenda.
     
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    You and I do the right thing, while Yahweh did the opposite, because he is a poor god. Satanic in fact.

    God cannot sacrifice his life, because he never had one to give.

    The only way any god can live is through a person.

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    Theres the crux of the issue right there. How do you know that? We humans know very little about what exists compared to what we have yet to know. Just as one example: there may be other realities where exist completely different natural laws than our own, with beings that defy all reason and could be what we would consider gods. You have a very small, rigid (and horrible, it would seem) box that 'God' must fit inside.
     
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    Unless..... Ezekiel chapter thirty seven happens over and over and over again many times and everybody is eventually led to repentance in what could be termed Mutiverse Theory and / or........... it could also be that souls can progress even in Hades, the grave?

    Here is how a Latter day Saint near death experiencer wrote this up. ......

    https://www.near-death.com/science/experts/widdison-and-lundahl.html

     
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    You are correct that G-d does live in and through people.... that is true!

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a08

     
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    You describe some god and then attribute the creation you created to me. Not the brightest thing to do.

    As to how I know it, goof, where else do we keep our paradigms?

    As to the Gnostic Christian god, he is an esoteric ecumenist and perpetual seeker. All gods fit, in their proper place.

    That is why we name Yahweh a vile demiurge in our myths.

    We do not read myths literally and neither should you. It is not good for the mind.

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    What cannot express itself in reality should be regarded as speculative nonsense.

    Stop adding nothing where you dog me to push your garbage.

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    Quoted from gotquestions.org.
     
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    The reality of any religious entity is irrelevant when a moral question is at hand.

    Given that you have no decent moral argument, you do as your inquisition buddies do. Try to derail.

    Get on topic of get lost.

    This Gnostic Christian did not say this, ********.

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    Gotquestions.org article about the Gnostic Gospels.

     
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    Esoterica is different from making God a part of your life. It's a distraction. It's religion not relationship.
     
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    We do not define god the same way.

    Yours is a supernatural fiction while mine is natural and real.

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    Yes you have told me what you know God is. As a general rule, I disregard anyone who would claim to know God for me, be it you or a church pastor or a televangelist or religious historian. I'll take that instead from God.
     
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    Do you believe Jesus Christ is God?
     
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    You disregarded where I described my view of god, given that you seem to think I know something of some god, other than myself.

    Let me try again.

    Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.

    You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.

    The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation and “I am”, represents the best rules and laws that we have found to live by.

    In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.

    That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

    Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

    Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

    Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.


    Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.


    The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.

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    Essentially. The most likely scenario it seems to me is that Jesus is a perspective of God that resulted from God experiencing mortality.
     
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    Which god?

    Not the genocidal prick, I hope.

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    Jesus is God.
    Jesus is God.

    https://www.gotquestions.org/I-AM.html

     
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    https://www.gotquestions.org/I-AM-WHO-I-AM-Exodus-3-14.html

     
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    If that were true, Yahweh would have done what all mortal Jesus like creatures do, and die for their children.

    Not do like the moral coward Yahweh did; have his child step up instead of Yahweh doing the right thing and stepping up himself.

    To experience mortality, one must die. God lives to believers.

    The wise know that there is no supernatural god.

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