Is Zimmerman Guilty?

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Is Zimmerman Guilty?

  1. No. Although he issued poor judgement, he is not guilty of the charges against him.

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    46.2%
  2. Yes. His actions were unwarrented, he IS guilty.

    26 vote(s)
    40.0%
  3. IDK. I don't know or Maybe?

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  1. NYCmitch25

    NYCmitch25 New Member

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    Is Zimmerman Guilty or Not Guilty in your eyes ?:gun:
     
  2. Sab

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    Not Guilty. His actions right up until Martin hit him were entirely legal. Martin attacked first.
     
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    agreed
     
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    I think he is probably partially guilty, for his role in escalating the confrontation. But obviously he did not just shoot for no good reason.
    Of course, we cannot be entirely sure exactly what happened. It is difficult in these situations to assign blame.
     
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    I don't see that he did anything wrong. It was Martin who did something wrong.
     
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    but..but..He got out of his truck......

    If this guy Zimmerman was a racist he would have shot him,,BEFORE he was hit, not after.......I have always taught my son, your hands ARE weapons, use them and expect the worst. The man from all indications was attacked, and responded with deadly force. How is he expected to know how bad the beating might get? how?

    The mans head hit the pavement, he is the only one with injuries. He responded with ''like'' deadly force. Your comment..
    ''But obviously he did not just shoot for no good reason.'' says it all. He was attacked, he was fearful, he reacted.


    I feel horrible for the family, but this is what happens when you use physical force yourself, expect the worst. Had Travon kept his hands to himself this never would have happened, he took the ''risk'', he lost. I can not see a jury seeing it any other way. The jury will be mixed racially and so will be their verdict.

    Zimmerman will walk unless he takes some kind of deal, and if he does it will amount to a slap on the hands...
     
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    He's not guilty, and there was absolutely no cause for his being tried in the first place. I didn't answer the poll because I don't think he used poor judgment. Trayvon used poor judgment, not Zimmerman.
     
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    guilty of Murder 2. His injuries are not consistant with his story. He lies a lot. He is a sociopath.

    Martin had done nothing wrong prior to the idiot's catching up with him and mouthong off like a gang banger. Martin had reason to fear for his life.

    The wrong man died on that dog walk.
     
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    This guy was acquitted yesterday on SYG.. and its very different from the Zimmerman case.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...cop-timothy-davis-acquitted-sons-killing.html
     
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    Zimmerman is not guilty the legislator is
     
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    Oh don;t be a chump. There was no dog walk.
     
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    Yes it was a dog walk with a poobag station at each end.
     
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    Martin wasn't walking a dog, he was returning from a convenience store.
     
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    It is referred to as the dog walk by the residents because that's where they walked their dogs and that's where the poostations were located.
     
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    Ah OK. 'The Dogwalk' not 'a dog walk'
     
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    Whatever.. that's also where the kids played pick up football... normal use in a tight rowhouse community.
     
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    I do not agree. If someone aggressively came at you in the street you would automatically assume they had a gun? Would you try to get them off of you, maybe throw a punch if they grabbed you? Z never announced he had a gun. In the US, good gun owners know better to do what Z did. They would not put a gun on someone without saying they have it and so forth.
     
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    Yeah, I'm not sure if he committed a crime but now that it's a huge thing, he will represent that situation to the entire nation, do we want to say you can agressively approach someone and shoot them if they are bated into a fight? unless I'm reading this wrong, I thought that Z kind of "hunted" him down...
     
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    Well said.. There are a number of conservative forums that are also pro-gun.. and they think GZ behaved like an idiot.. and makes responsible gun owners look bad.
     
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    Thanks. Interestingly I know the stats on this poll because there was a website that tracked some 7 million comments and found it fairly evenly divided. I wonder if Z will plea or with that chance of doubt go for it.. What would you do if you were him ?
     
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    Some may argue excessive force, but my question remains the same..''How was Zimmerman expected to know how bad the attack was going to get?'' Does the law require him to wait until he sees a gun? The answer is no, wait until he is weak from a loss of blood? the answer is no!
    Reasonable Fear of his life? Yes, and he had every reason to fear for his life, he did not know this person at all, or his capabilities, or intentions.

    If he had done nothing he would have been gambling with his life, how many people would have taken that gamble,,and why? He knew the cops might very well be there, did he try and run away?
    This is pure self defense not much of a question about it. There has been so much added by both camps to sway public opinion, and the media has super inflamed the entire thing for the sake of ''news''.
     
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    I would plead.... but Zim has done everything wrong since the beginning. Talking to everyone.. failing to hire counsel immediately, going on Hannity.. making a website for the "masses".. He's a rotten client.
     
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    All those are correct but it doesn't prove him guilty.
     
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    Or, he could have waited for the cops instead of running around in the dark with a gun..

    Or, he could have identified himself and diffused the situation.
     
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    There can be a lot of ''Or'',,or ''suppose'',,''might'', ''could have'' ''should have'' and this is exactly what we have seen.

    In my experience being on several juries they will zero in on the basic facts. Who attacked who?, what evidence is there of this? Was the action taken totally uncalled for?
    So much of the ''could have'' will not even be addressed, they are not interviewing a person for a job. They are deciding if the actions of this man were reasonable under the present circumstance.. I believe they were
     
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