ISIS Continues Destruction of Islamic Historical Sites

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  1. jstewa

    jstewa New Member

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    It's easy to become desensitized to the atrocities that we are constantly exposed to through the media. It's also easy to have a "deep philosophical debate" from the comfort of your keyboard. The fact is that the sanctity of human life should be on the forefront. I'm not saying that senseless destruction of precious artifacts isn't a total travesty. I'm saying at the end of the day the greatest travesty is the unfathomable pain that the victims themselves went through along with the excruciating reality that their loved ones are faced with. In terms of your argument, think of the current cultural loss. Each live lost could have potentially contributed to a great cultural discovery and fear for ones life will definitely squelch any "culture" in our current time from reaching further generations.
     
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    Because they want to defend ISIS and persecute Christians.
     
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    What nonsense. Nothing in the CHRISTIAN bible supports such things and thats why within Sunni Islam it is a practice and in Christianity it is an aberation.
     
  4. Draco

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    This makes me so insanely angry, history is something that should be treasured.

    These guys need to be killed, taken off the planet, the life taken from their bodies.

    Ugh, so angry
     
  5. J0NAH

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    inciting death?? Very mature never mind utterly ignorant. U forget one little detail, it is u that is the invader, aggressor, supplier and composer of this devastation
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    You seem to forget it is pagan Christians who are invading Muslim lands, not the other way around, I know iknow, small details
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Pagan Christian" is a contradiction in terms
     
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    Isil is loosing in Tikrit and it seems as if the momentum of the war is shifting in favor of the iraqi army and kurds. The destruction of the historic sites might be done out of anger since they are losing. Its ironic in that the caliphate they sought to build will now be dismantled piece by piece. Frankly I think Isil should of stayed in syria and focused on international attacks against america and Israel. By invading Iraq they just made alot more enemies. I'm sure that Isil will continue to poss a threat yet they will be reduced to a gorilla force they will not be able to hold onto territory. I predict that Mosul will be taken over by the Iraqi army.

    Just make sure to thank the Iranians for the Iraqi success over Isil.
     
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    The only people invading the lands of pagan moon god worshippers are pagan moon god worshippers. ;)

    Small details, indeed...
     
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    No Iraq invasion= Saddam exterminates Kurds.

    this is a fact.

    I do prefer to fight against this ridiculous "ISIS" than to observe Saddam making a genocide in Kurdistan.
     
  12. Draco

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    Yup, sure am!

    I know you are a hyper partisan and will use any excuse you can to push your agenda, but I personally do not care. None of this pertains to what wanted, as you seem to be accusing me of, and I find it humorous when the typical forum troll puts together a string of catch phrases to try to completely change the conversation.

    I absolutely did not support the Iraq war in the first place and thought Bush was an idiot for doing so.

    I absolutely did not support the early withdrawal of our forces from Iraq. I agreed with the generals saying we would leave a gaping hole that the Iraqi army was not yet ready to fill. I knew Muslim extremists would fill that gap and felt Obama is an idiot who did it for nothing other than political reasoning.

    So, I'm very sorry you are too ignorant to have a conversation away from your political catch phrases and too immature to discuss the here and now instead of 10 year old partisan theories.

    I must ask however why you are ok with the people being killed by ISIS? You forget one little detail, that ISIS is the invader, aggressor, supplier and composer of this devastation. Since the conversation is about an event happening today. But you knew that....

    You are just a hyper partisan so it doesn't mean anything to you.
     
  13. Draco

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    Neither are fact, we have no way of exactly knowing what would have happened and the left-right fight over who is at fault is not only stupid but pointless.

    We have a problem to deal with now and discussing who did what ten years ago has no way of solving the current problem
     
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    The problem is going to be solved, I note that the trend of the confrontation is changing. ISIS is till well alive and dangerous, but Iraqi forces, with international aid, are regaining territory and obtaining significant successes.

    Also recruitment by ISIS is showing the first problems and defections are beginning.

    The utopia of the Islamic State is losing its charm and its enthusiasm ...

    Le's be patient, it's a matter of time.
     
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    Why did u repeat what I stated ?
     
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    Besides inciting murder like on passes wind, did u just learn what partisan means? Maybe u can include it a few more times in your response. Btw what was ur last response about? I couldn't see the point
     
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    While it's a travesty that items from antiquity are being destroyed, it is not worth going to war over.
     
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    I didn't. Pagan Christians and pagan Moon-god worshippers aren't the same people.

    I'm curious, how long have you been parroting the Islamic State's takfirist rhetoric?
     
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    Ummm the gassing of the Kurds occurred many years before we invaded Iraq and if that was the reason we would have invaded loooong before we did. Not t mention no law makers were using the Kurdish issue as the reason we invaded Iraq. Bush Sr. knew the folly of invading and destroying Iraq and only did so to get them out of Kuwait then pulled us out of there, Jr, was no where near as bright and now we have the results of that to deal with.

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    We are at war, but it is not our boots on the ground, but everything else is still involved. That said I agree, while tragic it is not worth putting our boots on the ground to end it, let the people of the region do it.
     
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    Not to dispute you but what more is there? In re ISIS what more is there than the Iraq invasion? that is, how would ISIS or even similar have come about if Bush had not invaded?

    I've always said we should have quietly eased Saddam out, either of Iraq or this mortal coil, and put in someone amenable. It's probably what we did with him in the first place.

    Iraq is like Yugoslavia, it's what geo-politicists call a "shatter zone" (or at least did when I was in school) One characteristic of such is that the people there fight, everybody and all the time, and you have to have somebody they all hate and fear more than each other to sit on them if you want peace
     
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    The real reason why US invaded Iraq was [I understood this hearing to an interview at Mrs Rice on an Italian TV. She said that immediately after 9/11 there was who, at the White House, wanted to attack Iraq. At least they find an agreement it was better to attack Afghanistan first ...] that the American administration needed an "acceptable" opponent to spend at political level.

    It's more epic to attack and defeat a real army than to attack some tents among Afghan mountains ...
    Unfortunately Saddam's army didn't give enough "emotional satisfaction" to the US electorate [this is why Bush was so in a hurry to declare the mission accomplished].
     
  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Jeez, the true stupidity of this, if it's true, is utterly phenomenal. No thought or analysis at all, like children playing war.

    And the worst part is they could have really accomplished a lot in the area if they had just used their brains and THOUGHT about what they were doing. Putting an amenable strong man into Iraq peaceably could actually do what Bush was trying to, and have given us a friendly Islamic power in Southwest Asia

    This shows one of the biggest defects in conservatism; its anti-intellectualism. You can't just rely on the idea that GA-HAWD is on your side to make you do the smart thing, not all the time or even some of the time. Smart comes from thought, not good or God
     
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    you have it the wrong way round. ISIS are paraphrasing long held common knowledge.
     
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    its a crime against humanity to destroy priceless pieces of ancient art.

    if you don't like idols, don't look at them.
     
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    its no worse than stealing ancient art and profiting from it (european museums full of Afrikan Relics).
    Look on the positive side, at least now, the europeans wont be able to profit from looting babylonian relics anymore.
     

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