ISIS has come to implement Islam, by the book,

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  1. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    This is what I have been saying for years, and it is not just ISIS.
    It is Muslims following the teachings of Big Mo.
    After all, Al-Baghdadi is an Islamic scholar, and knows of which he speaks.



    Yemeni scholar: “ISIS has come to implement Islam as it is, by the book, complete with slave girls, the rape”

    “ISIS has come to implement Islam as it is, by the book. It has not come up with anything on its own. It evoked the religious texts exactly as they are. It did not distort, change, or replace anything. It came with the text and implement it exactly as it is….They came in order to [implement] the proper Islam, complete with slave girls, the rape…”

    Will Islamic apologists and their Leftist allies denounce Dr. Arwa Al-Khattabi as a racist, bigoted, “Islamophobe”? Of course not. They’ll just hope you don’t notice what she says.


    “Yemeni Academic Dr. Arwa Al-Khattabi: ISIS Represents Islam; We Must Discuss This Honestly and Take Responsibility for What Is Happening in the World,” MEMRI, March 16, 2019:

    On March 16, 2019, BBC Arabic (U.K.) hosted a debate about extremism and Islam. Dr. Makram Khouri-Machool, the director of the Cambridge-based European Centre for the Study of Extremism, said that most Muslim societies are peaceful and that Islam should not be accused of extremism. He said that there had been no killing of Arab Christians in the Middle East until American and Western occupation. Dr. Arwa Al-Khattabi, a Yemeni expert in European and German history, said that ISIS represents Islam and that it has attempted to implement it by the book without distorting, changing, or adding anything. She said that Arabs and Muslims must discuss the matter honestly and take responsibility for what is happening in the world rather than act like victims and blame others.
     
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    Uh-oh, I feel this thread isn't going to last long. Exposing Islam is a "no-no" in contemporary liberal discourse.
    Lots of Islamic or alleged "social peace" apologetism in recent days.

     
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    The biggest crime in all of this is people making excuses for Islamic terror, casting blame, but avoiding the actual source of it.
     
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    There is even a bigger one - the freedom of speech. Or to be precise, the lack of it.
    One cannot criticize Islam because "Islam is a world religion" and "people might get offended".
     
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    If you are making up something,, I agree.

    However if you are telling the truth, and the religions writings confirm what you said is the truth.

    There is no violation of anything, legal or moral.

    Especially when people are acting it out as you speak.
     
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    Then why yours and mine threads about the dangers of Islam disappear? Oh, I know, violation of forum rules, it has nothing to do with the nature of Islam per se.
     
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    There would be no problem if all muslims were Sufis. But then again many muslims do not regard the Sufis as real muslims so their lives are in danger in many parts of the Middle East.
     
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    The forum rules are pretty strict here, and I confess, I have violated them several times.
    So I try to watch myself.
    The nature of Islam however, is a real thing, with real documentation.

    They have a 7th century religion with all the vice a person could imagine.
    Some really sicko stuff, far worse than Judism, and volumes of it.
    I try to explain stuff and people refuse to believe me, and rightfully so, it's unbelievable.
    I show them documentation, and they try to invent reasons, why it really doesn't mean what it says.
     
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    That's correct.
    Sufi is the quitest of them all,
    Sufi is a combination of Zoroastrianism,and Islam.
    PS. I think they put the "Islam" in it so they would not lose their heads.
    But they are persecuted by "real Islam:.
     
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    And remember, criticizing Islam or Allah or Muhammad is punishable by death in Islamic countries. So, your documentation is irrelevant. ;)
     
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    I'm not in an Islamic country, and not famous.
    ie. Pamela Gheller, has a fatwa on her.
     
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    Princess Leia being enslaved by Jaba the Hut in Star Wars was inspired by stories of slave girls being kept in harems in the Middle East.

    Historically, non muslim women were viewed as little above the level of whores so it was fair game to enslave them.

    A muslim woman was the good faithful wife, who covered her [entire] body and stayed in the home so no man would be tempted to defile her (i.e. so she wouldn't get raped, and would be able to remain pure for her husband and he'd be sure her kids were his).

    In that culture it wasn't believed a man and woman could be left alone in the same room without being unable to control themselves (mostly the man, women were viewed as being incapable of resisting) so if impropriety took place it was viewed as being the fault of the woman if she didn't go to extreme lengths to do everything to prevent that situation from arising in the first place.
     
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    But there was no reference to it in the film.
    She was also wearing a top.
    Slave girls are naked from the waist up.
     
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    It is very unfortunate that we want to deny… We have a huge problem and we must recognize this before anything else. We have a problem, and we must take responsibility for it before we blame others for what is happening in the world. We cannot shut our eyes and deny this. It is happening because of us. When we deny things and place the blame on others, as if we are forced to do all this and are not the reason for what is happening… We must all own up to what is happening.
     
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    I was hoping we would get some of the Muslims here to offer input.
     
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    Its interesting that people all over the world can criticize anything they wish to criticize, but criticism of islam
    is always shut down...purely and simply because of trade between non islamic countries and islamic countries...we cant upset our trading partners now can we...
    But then again if we are from the left..we have to love and kiss and cuddle everyone (except those from the right, of course)...welcome everyone into our countries
    with open arms....we all have to embrace the religion of peace...its so beautiful.....
    Its time everyone starting studying mohammed and faced historical facts as to who and what he was....
     
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    Great news....
    Brunei is introducing death by stoning for gays...now thats definitely bringing
    a stone age religion/ideology into the 21st century..isnt it....thrilling.......just another
    example of islamic "tolerance"....pft....
     
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    He is basically bringing in an ISIS type government, which is actually documented Islam.
     
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    Sounds like we have a thread to stir up hate in right wing extremeism which is on the rise and accounts for more then twice the terrorist attacks of Jihadists. All religions breed-ignorance and can foster violence. Islam may be the motherland of bad ideas , but by shear numbers, Christian based right wing extremism fosters itself more violently here. We need to oppose violence in all its faces and not pick just one out as a reason for concern.
    The biggest concern for instigating violence sits under our nose.
     
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    so we will just oppose 100 of them and basically oppose none.

    No, we need to point out major contributors to violence and terror.

    Right now on the world scale.
    Islam is probably tops.
     
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    Nope. A little fact checking. Islam is a middle east, African religious dominant area by country and as such, Islamic terrorism dominates in some areas mainly vs other Muslims. India with a large Hindu population has to deal with a rise in Hindu terrorism. We, singlehandedly with our invasions and military installations, have been the root cause of the majority of attacks on our soil and in the Middle East vs Americans.

    Govt terrorism in countries like No Korean, SA and the Soviet union kill thousands and we don’t bat an eye, just hug thier dictators. . Lack of healthcare sponsorship kills 30k here every year here. That’s a the right vs working poor terrorism. Let’s get real. We ship thousands of illegal arms everywhere including Mexico to promote drug based terrorism. The last thing we need to do is promote terrorism more by blaming a religion over another. Here, it’s the far right Christian based right wing, in other countries, it’s something else entirely,. We should be looking for ways to defuse issues, not instigating it.
     
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    Islam is responsible for 85 % of world terror.
    Sunni alone is 70 %

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    Nobody comes even close to Islamic terror.


    Or using your logic.

    Lets ignore gun violence, because cars kill more.
     
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    Where did you get this number ?
     
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