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  1. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Please be so nice and caring as to tell the clerics that Allah really gets ticked off at them for killing former muslims.
     
  2. OJLeb

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    [video=youtube;-Kqb8GzXihI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kqb8GzXihI[/video]

    I watched this movie a long time ago, and was so hapoy to find it on Youtube!! Watching it now, more mature and educated in the events depicted it is a fanstastic movie about the real growth of Islam.

    I highly recommend watching this. Yes it is 3-hours long, but if you have the time please watch it.

    Here are some interesting facts about the movie:

    The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, is not shown or heard throughout the movie.

    The Saudi Arabian regime actually tried to prevent the movie from being made. It was being filmed in Morocco, and the Saudi regime pressured the Moroccan government to stop Moustapha Akkad from filming in there. It was actually Gaddafi who saved the movie, and allowed Akkad to film the remaining in Libya.

    And sadly, Moustapha Akkad and his daughter Rima are dead. They were killed in a suicide bombing in Jordan back in 2005. It truly is such a sad irony....

    This is one of the best movies I have found to educate other members on here about some of the history of Islam.
     
  3. OJLeb

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    [video=youtube;ISbO61d6B68]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISbO61d6B68[/video]
     
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    Sounds like the incoherant ramblings of cave dwelling camel flea infested pedophilic false prophet promoting a false god, not the word of the living God.
     
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    There are no "good things of Islam". That is the ultimate oxymoron.
     
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    Sounds like you are confused. Islam is hate.
     
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    Thats fricking pathetic, thats Islam.
     
  8. OJLeb

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    109:1 Say, "O disbelievers,
    109:2 I do not worship what you worship.
    109:3 Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
    109:4 Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
    109:5 Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
    109:6 For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."
     
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    Thats his message to the unbelievers. To the believers he preached

    [2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...

    [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

    [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them,
     
  10. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    It is also very important for Muslims to understand the true history of Islam, where, who and how it came about and not just stick on the false pretence that Islam is the true religion of the God of Abraham. Muslims need to find the facts of Islam's claim that the entire Abraham religiously history were all wrong base on facts not what base on what Muslims wants to think it is.

    Many discussion and research have already been made about Islam's history which started with Mohammed and too many conflicting issue about Mohammed that Muslims have refuse to accept and this is one reason why Muslims have to continue to stay trance and ignore those reality that has cause so much conflict in Muslim society.....do we modernize? is modernization against Islam? why does Islam teaches so many contradiction such as the no compulsory to become Muslim and yet Muslims are punish under Islamic teaching for leaving Islam? Why does Islam claim Jesus had a look a like when they claim that Jesus never claim he is God? Why didn't Jesus testify to the Pharisees that he is not the son of God?

    Yes there are many good verses in Islam that were all base on Christian teaching and yes they are also many violent teachings that abrogates the peaceful teachings the question and answers that Muslims should really look for is where and what is the REAL ISLAM??? Who is in charge???

    These are just one of the many wild claims that Muslims claim and it is these that makes Islam a religion that is out of touch, Islam in reality is just anotehr form of Christian heretical religion that got out of control.
     
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    And Mohammed continue on that would abrogate those verses:

    [2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...

    [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

    [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them,

    These conflicting verses clearly demonstrate that Mohammed was a trouble man, he is a warlord that exploited the religious innocence of the the Arabs.
     
  12. OJLeb

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    How many times do you need these verses explained to you WanRen? I mean, seriously, I have gone through those verses for you a dozen times.

    It is quite sad that Islamophobes must dumb themselves down and forget basic reading comprehension when trying to make Islam look bad.

    I mean, you need to make yourself look like an idiot to try and spread hatred about a belief system, that should tell most logically thinking people that it is a waste of time.

    Every time you post these verses, you make yourself look more and more stupid. No offense. But you seem to take pride in it, as you do it over and over and over again. Lol.

    Do you actually believe Muhammad (PBUH) actually abrogated an entire Surah? Did you know, those 10 verses are a Surah in the Quran?

    Which imams and tafseers did you see that told you these manipulated verses you posted abrogate this Surah?

    Lol

    Salam
     
  13. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    As expected, Muslims will never have peace because they can not accept their history instead they continue to pretend live in a glass jar. Yes, you have explain and we have discuss those verses many times and I have presented a very logical and practical explanation that you and Muslims refuse to accept because Muslims choose to live in their false history.

    If you believe no abrogation then explain the contradictions, instead of hiding and accusing us of being Islamophoe for seeking the truth.

    I am a better interpreter of the Quran than you or any Muslims, your interpretation is base on fairy tales.
     
  14. OJLeb

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    I am glad you saved the best part of this post for last.

    But it is actually you who does not know of Islams history. Otherwise you would not have just posted those verses again.

    I just told you, and you agreed, that I have explained those verses a dozen times to you. To be honest, you are not worth the effort because you don't listen to what I say anyway.

    lol this has to be, by far, the best thing you have ever posted, WanRen. I needed a good laugh. Shukran :)
     
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    I have to keep on posting those verses because Muslims continue to contradict themselves and deny actual historical facts.

    Laughter is a good medicine it also help you to ignore truth. Juts like this is also presented in a laughing manner because Muslims are just too blinded and heavily indoctrinated to understand truth:

    [video=youtube;JtCcy6Tpdno]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtCcy6Tpdno[/video]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtCcy6Tpdno
    You are very right and this I have to agree with you 101% Islam is a joke :) :)
     
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    Are you a Christian or just another secular Canadian?

    Because nothing like a Christian using their enemy (Bill Maher) to attack another religion.
     
  17. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    The Bible has more abrogations and contradictions than the Koran because it's much larger. It may not be wise to go down that road. Why non-Jews and non-Arabs believe either one is a major mystery.
     
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    [video=youtube;YI4S3JjCrL8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI4S3JjCrL8[/video]

    Going to be a wonderful app!
     
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    Another form of brainwashing to remind Muslims not to question and to pray 5x a day. It is about covering the truth.

    [video=youtube;3J7-Z81FjFs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J7-Z81FjFs[/video]
     
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    You call it attack, we call it probing the real Islam.
     
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    Christians does not practice abrogation the way Muslim does, Christians abrogate all the violent verses with good verses, Muslims do the opposite they abrogate peaceful verses with violent verses.
    The Bible has 73 Holy Books the Quran has zero of the Holy Books.
     
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    Way to dodge the question.

    When the likes of Maher are finished with Islam, they'll come after Christians next. Be careful who you ally with.
     
  24. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Mohammed didn't write the Koran, a committee did. Although he is portrayed as a historical figure there's no real evidence that he existed.

    Here's a primer for those who may not understand the fine points of The Quran's Doctrine of Abrogation
    http://www.islamreview.com/articles/quransdoctrine.shtml
     
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    Locker room humor-pretty sad really.
     
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