Isn't Equality Ultimately in Women's best Interests?

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  1. FoxHastings

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    What are these "special rights" for homosexuals???
     
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    Hate crimes legislation (targets Conservatives). Homosexual "marriage" (destroys the proper family structure) and that's just for starters. Liberals want everyone to be exactly identical in every way, contrary to what their brainwashing says. They are THE most intolerant scumbags on the planet.
     
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    So homosexuals are not human beings who deserve rights to you......they are not god's children like everyone else.....

    Gay marriage destroys the "proper" family structure? How?.....has it destroyed your marriage?

    WHO are YOU to determine what a "proper" family structure is?

    Any marriage affected by someone else's marriage was WEAK to start with.....talk about NOT taking responsibility for your own actions!! Blaming others for one's own failed marriage is certainly not taking responsibility for one's own action!!!


    YOU: "Liberals want everyone to be exactly identical in every way"


    UH, NO, that would be you , YOU say everyone should be exactly like you.......and anyone different should have their rights taken away...because they are NOT identical to you



    What's a "proper" family structure if it isn't wanting all families to be exactly alike?
     
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    The Scripture makes it clear. Only those who accept Christ and are born again are God's children. Everyone else is an enemy of God

    Because it adds confusion. God's design for marriage is one man-one woman. Everything else is a counterfeit.




    One man-one woman
     
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    Wow...your god is sure nasty. I tell my students that if they don’t worship me , they are my enemy and will flunk. If it’s good enough for Jesus it’s good enough for me. Gods design was for women to be subservient...lol
     
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    Why would I hate those men? Real women will defend their husbands and families to the death, will provide a good, safe environment for their families, as well. As far as teaching the word of god, I think real men will teach children to respect each other and not fear some guy in the sky. I don’t hate those men you speak of, I just don’t think they’re any proof of "real men"
     
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    No, He is a just and Holy God who will not allow sin and unrighteousness into His presence. But in His love for us, he sent His Son to pay the full penalty for our sin.
     
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    Sounds like you’re the one who wants everyone to be identical. One man, one woman....even if he is abusive. In Your world two loving women aren’t as good a family structure as one woman and a drunk Man. What about children raised by grandparents? What about children raised by a mother? What about a man who raises his children because his wife left? What about adopted children? Family structures are not all the same but that’s what you want. I want what’s best for children
     
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    We seem to have different definitions of sin and unrighteousness.People who show in tolerance of people who are different are sinful in my eyes. If God was just we wouldn’t have children dying of starvation. If that’s the love he can keep it.
     
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    Unfortunately you are wrong in the eyes of God and His Word. Sin is the deliberate disobedience and rebellion against God and rejecting His Love Gift, which is Christ and His shed blood. And, because of the curse of sin, this is why there is much misery. Mankind is inherently evil and there is no good in him. Paul in his letter to the Romans states that there is none righteous, not even one (Rom. 3:10).
     
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    Hey, where was god in Florida? Puerto Rico? Texas? I guess all those dying of starvation in Africa are rejecting god who could just make rain in a second. All he has to do is snap his fingers .
    I bet you think Jews and Muslims and Buddhist and atheists are all evil .....because we don’t buy into your “god”
     
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    My God is the one who set the standard, not me. ANYONE who rejects Christ as Messiah will face a Godless eternity in Hell if they don't repent. Not my words, Christ's.
     
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    I will respond to a few things especially about Women having the final say in pregnancy. Who do you think should have the final say? I agree with you that men should have input. Who says they shouldn’t? After all he may be responsible for 18 years of child support. But who do you think should have the final say? If he says have an abortion And she doesn’t believe in abortion should she be forced to have one? What if she doesn’t want a child and he does should she be forced to breed against her will?
    Just look at what is happening today. Congress wants to deny women abortions after 20 weeks no matter what. Congress wants to allow Employers to deny women birth control in their health plans .etc. Women’s rights are being eroded once again.
    For many years i used to accompany women to rape trials. Laws have changed thank goodness. But women are reluctant to report rape because of how they are treated. Look at how many blamed the women in the cases of trump and Cosby.
     
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    No sir, you will be in the same place I will be.....six feet under. You are just controlled by fear, I’m not. Did those people dying in Florida, Texas, Puerto Rico, Africa reject Jesus? Hardly...iWhat kind of Messiah would subject somebody to hell because s/he doesn’t accept him ? What a cruel man you worship. Jesus never said anything about gay people but you vilify them so I guess you will be spending eternity in hell.
     
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    That's what I keep telling the feminists.
     
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    I think that a fair, equal system would be something like this:

    If a woman wants an abortion, but the man doesn't, she should be able to have the abortion. The man loses his (potential) child, but he now knows that he needs to find a new woman. Both move on with their lives.

    If the man wants an abortion, but the woman doesn't, then the woman STILL has the final choice. BUT then the man has zero responsibility for the child. She owns that child and that choice completely.

    Obviously these are both suboptimal results that arise because the man and the woman didn't get on the same page beforehand. Oh, and (actual true-to-God) rapists have zero rights and should have to pay child support if the woman doesn't want to abort.
     
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    I'm fine with men and women being different, if they are then their general obligations to society are different and women being logically the more protected gender by millions of years of human evolution seems to me taking the greater life risks as a gender this in dangerous work done, yes combat in the roles in the armed forces they do well in and in running society the women then need to accept less of a position in society with less obligations to do these undesirable areas. I'm not disparaging the duties done, the armed forces commitments to the nation they do accept and their risks of bearing children but no one can do it all. If men do the larger and greater role and women tend to the domestic roles then fine men will therefore always be more important to the larger society except in the one role women can only do having babies.

    In the future as the roles truly become blurred more and technology compensates for women's lesser value in some areas such as unpleasant dangerous work and yes in combat engaging in war as well as men can this is the simple fact of biology.

    Women are special and need for now to be treated special right now because they have wombs and tend to be the domestic labor of the household in most cases mind you men in a secondary role there.
     
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    I have a better idea automatically engage both parents if the child is kept in a Common Law Marriage with all the obligations and rights, including Bigamy Laws if one or the other or both are married, and ban divorce until the child is ,say, twenty one unless there is a case of domestic violence or child abuse or abandonment (lasting more than two years and the courts legally try to force the abandoning spouse back home by any measures needed) or child abuse and end no fault divorces fully. I for one figure if you decide to hitch up it should be largely for life unless other factors are in play. And it would perhaps limit divorces and splaying legs and sticking in penises to risk making a baby if the ramifications are very serious. This would apply to all marriages if a Same Gender Couple adopts a child they should be as stuck as a Heterosexual Couple.
     
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    Womens rights have turned on women. The hand that rocked the cradle ruled the world. Nobody is rocking the cradle anymore.
    Most of your kids think your a clueless fool. You have left them with little hope fro the future. They will stick you in a dying farm aka nursing home to die alone. VD is now epidemic one in four have it. Most of you will live a life of loneliness because of very high divorce. Thanks to you leaving the home for big cars and homes instead of watching our food supply GMO and additive filled poisons increasing more everyday. I don't see all that freedumb working out too good for us woman.
     
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    So then you support a man abandoning his child. Because once it is born, it is his child whether he wanted it or not. As I keep saying he knew the consequences when he had sex. He knew that if she got pregnant the final decision would be hers and he would have to contribute his half of the child support. I’m sure you care about that third person who has his dna.
     
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    Lol...yeah women really ruled the world, rocking that cradle. Yeah it’s all because of women that kids don’t have hope for the future. Actually girls have hope for the future that they never had before. What makes you say something so stupid like they will stick you in a nursing home to die alone? Maybe now sons will get more involved with the parents as they age. You really hate women, I have never seen a woman with such self loathing.....But then again I don’t believe you are a woman.
     
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    No I got stuck with a society the fems left us all to deal with. And am very glad I'm old and won't have to see you suffering with all these problems the jack boot fems left you. Unlike the idiot Helen Reddy I don't roar.
     
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    Most educated people, male and female don’t choose Unpleasant dangerous work. I love when men say women are “special” and that’s why we should stay in our little homes. We are special, we tend to be less violent. we don’t think with the “wrong head” when it comes to workplace harassment . You don’t need a womb to tend to domestic labor....you know, the unpaid one most men don’t want to do, ...so they call us "special"
     
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    Sounds like the guys here are the ones with the persecution complexes. Seeing women as a threat to their manhood....watch out, were coming to get you :)
     
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