Isn't Equality Ultimately in Women's best Interests?

Real Jewish males should be afraid.

 

I call those men dicks, arrogant *******, or maybe an idiot who lacks the intillectual capacity to change things without reverting to brutish tactics.

A women who is assertive and excited about what she works on or is leading impresses me. A women who thinks being a brute man is how she has to act in order to to be accepted in a higher position is like the brute man she pretends to be, an idiot.

 

I dig this ignore function. It completely wipes out the existence of someone.

The more of a winner you are the more trolls troll you. Trolls think that by trolling a winner it somehow makes them less of a loser. They're wrong. They are just as much a loser as they ever were.

 

Let me guess ....you’re a white guy. I am making generalization, not blanket statements. Men who are loud are not called thrill or strident. We don’t talk about men’s ankles.

Actually real men aren’t as insecure as you obviously are. I just hope you don’t have a daughter

 

Interesting.....You think a woman who wants a higher position has to believe she has to act like a brute man. No, she just has to act like a strong independent woman not afraid of insecure men

 

Actually, yes I do. And she is being raised as a righteous woman of God.

 

...??? You see your own thing in what I write regardless of what it actually says or I intend to convey. Its like you create your own context in which to intrepret it so that it fits into your worldview of what you want to believe instead of what is real.

 

Disagreed in general, but I'll readily agree that there are a higher than average number of "man hating misandrysts" in women's rights groups. There's also a higher number of whining "victimization feminists" than in the average population.

OTOH, "men's rights" groups have a higher number of whining Omega males than the average population. IMO, such groups tend to have more whiners than general because most people are strong enough to roll with the punches and move forward without constantly bitching about it.

 

I tend to agree here. OTOH, that's more social convention than genetic. Women, throughout history, have proven to be as brutal and ruthless as men. In short, we're all still apes with a thin veneer of civilization covering us.

http://www.apa.org/research/action/difference.aspx
.... gender differences seem to depend on the context in which they were measured. In studies designed to eliminate gender norms, researchers demonstrated that gender roles and social context strongly determined a person's actions. For example, after participants in one experiment were told that they would not be identified as male or female, nor did they wear any identification, none conformed to stereotypes about their sex when given the chance to be aggressive. In fact, they did the opposite of what would be expected - women were more aggressive and men were more passive....

...Media depictions of men and women as fundamentally "different" appear to perpetuate misconceptions - despite the lack of evidence. The resulting "urban legends" of gender difference can affect men and women at work and at home, as parents and as partners. As an example, workplace studies show that women who go against the caring, nurturing feminine stereotype may pay dearly for it when being hired or evaluated. And when it comes to personal relationships, best-selling books and popular magazines often claim that women and men don't get along because they communicate too differently. Hyde suggests instead that men and women stop talking prematurely because they have been led to believe that they can't change supposedly "innate" sex-based traits.

Hyde has observed that children also suffer the consequences of exaggerated claims of gender difference -- for example, the widespread belief that boys are better than girls in math. However, according to her meta-analysis, boys and girls perform equally well in math until high school, at which point boys do gain a small advantage. That may not reflect biology as much as social expectations, many psychologists believe. For example, the original Teen Talk Barbie ™, before she was pulled from the market after consumer protest, said, "Math class is tough."

As a result of stereotyped thinking, mathematically talented elementary-school girls may be overlooked by parents who have lower expectations for a daughter's success in math. Hyde cites prior research showing that parents' expectations of their children's success in math relate strongly to the children's self-confidence and performance.....

 

Shhh.dont tell one of the post

Good, then I hope she is subservient to men like the Bible says. I’m raising my daughter to be an equal.

 

Really? How many women do you know who hate men? How many women groups are you active in to draw that ridiculous conclusions.
Yes, those whining victimized feminists had to put up with this bullshit rhetoric since the second wave,,,,,,,and look at what women have attained. I guess the "whining" worked. Yep, we "whined" and now we can go Harvard, we whined and now we are half the medical schools, we whined and now we get athletic scholarships, we whined and now we get paid more for equal work, we whined and now we can get our own credit cards if we’re married......there is no shame in the word "victim"..we were victims of sexism. If you believe I. Equal rights for women, then you are a feminist....not necessity a misandrist . Look up the definition. The men I know and love are feminists.

 

Not subservient. My wife is my partner in crime in our household.

 

But the Bible says she should be subservient
Timothy chapter 2:

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  Also that women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly attire but by good deeds, as befits women who profess religion. Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.

 

And that's BS, its the race/gender industry propaganda. You are talking about ancient stereotypes, and stupid ones at that. Join the real world, this is not the 1960's.

 

Not subservient. It means there is a leadership structure, generally with the husband as head of the household just as Christ is the head of the husband. In short, it means that I cannot treat my wife like a slave, that is wrong on all fronts. But in matters of doctrine and teaching, God placed that responsibility PRIMARILY on the husband.

 

Paul, in Timothy 2, places that responsibility on the husband. One has to believe Paul got it 100% correct and wasn't just reflecting some of his own beliefs in his writings. Over 300 years later, a group of old white guys sat in council at Nicaea and decided which, out of all of Paul's writings, would go in the canonized Bible and which would just be archived.

Let's take notice that Jesus was very direct and simple on the matter: http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-matthew-22-34-40.htm
34But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, 36"Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?" 37Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' 40On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

 

Oh I heard the same comments in the 7os . Yep, sexism and racism have always been "industry propaganda"....(by sexists and racists )

Thank goodness I don’t have to be subservient. Leadership structure was created by men. How lucky your wife is that you don’t treat her as a slave even though the Bible condones slavery

 

If you're on a pedestal, you cannot be equal. There's no way to be on a pedestal AND be equal.

 

Actually women have a choice to bear a child or not. Men don't. My wife has chosen not bear a child. I would cut off and put my dick and balls on an altar if I knew God would give me the gift of being able to bear children but I am not so blessed. Seems I will be adopting.

There is only one scholarship for being a white male but many scholarships directed to women and minorities in various programs.

 

Exactly what I thought - you are some old person stuck in the ancient past, who can't drop her biases. The world has changed, get with the new program.

 

That proves you are using blanket prejudicial statements. Stop being a racist and hater.

 

Lets see to become a top person at a big company or corporation means one generally has to fight dirty, rip into the competition and discredit them and step on people to get to the top this applies also to politics and many other areas, the average board of directors person didn't get there being nice in most cases they put their own selves first ahead of the company to get to that level of authority. Exceptions generally are geniuses or people who start new industries such as Bill Gates but if its an established brand you claw, and drive your way to the top. Its my view women don't have that in them with exceptions as in for example Margret Thatcher was a tough and very capable woman in politics and others.

The average boss is going to save their job first and knock off competitors and they try to move up the ladder, the team based workplace is fine but the one in charge will not be a team player if its their butts and jobs on the line.

 

Who wants to be on a pedestal? People on pedestals don’t go anywhere

 

What’s prejudiced? Is there something wrong with being a white male? I’m just expressing an observation....I could be wrong

 

Liberals look at white males the same way the Nazis looked at the Jews, as the scapegoats for EVERYTHING...